Carling Cup and PL ganes, 14th to 20th *SPOILERS*
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Apparently Tosic hasn't been preforming the reserves, never mind having a run out in the first team. I would play Park ahead of Nani or Tosic. However, for the 2nd leg, I would go with Giggs and Valencia again.
Giggs and Evra link up brilliantly, well most of the time. A few tired passes towards the end of tonight's game. Valencia hogs the touchline and provides a good outlet for the midfield and can deliver the balls into the box.
Exactly, we need to start with 2 forwards up top in the 2nd leg. When Owen came on, Rooney seemed to get into the grove.
Well they have someone else to watch as opposed to just focussing on Rooney. Playing 2 up front will mean we lose some of the midfield dominance, but as long as Barry is non-existant that doesn't really matter.
Thought Carrick was quite good today anyway. Nothing special, just usual dominating posession that you expect.
Thought Carrick was quite good today anyway. Nothing special, just usual dominating posession that you expect.
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What happened to that young lad at United who scored "a wonder goal"? Has he disappeared down crap lane after all the "he's gonna be the worlds best blah blah" speeches?
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I hate blaming refs, they are under a lot of pressure like. But the call for a penalty was something special, Rafeal tugged him OUTSIDE the box then Bellamy went down after he stretched for the crossing of the ball.
Just odd, all to play at OT though. We will win.
Just odd, all to play at OT though. We will win.
Macheda? He's 18, give him time man. Only made his first appearance against Villa and scored a cracking 93rd minute winner, scored a week later IIRC. He'll be good.
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I don't mean to stick up for DM, BUT Rooney had a penalty for England where the foul happened outside of the box.
Difference is DM, that if you're shirt pulling the ref can give the foul at the start / end of the foul if that makes sense.
Samba Nev wasn't continuing to foul him. If the ref was going to give a foul it was outside the box, the "foul" inside the box wasn't a foul, Bellendamy went down easily.
Upon an edit, what I'm saying is, that if Samba nev had KEPT hold of Bellendamy he'd have given the pen away.
He didn't, the foul was outside the box. So like all the other fouls that are outside the box it wasn't a pen
*sorry for the DM way of explaining something
Difference is DM, that if you're shirt pulling the ref can give the foul at the start / end of the foul if that makes sense.
Samba Nev wasn't continuing to foul him. If the ref was going to give a foul it was outside the box, the "foul" inside the box wasn't a foul, Bellendamy went down easily.
Upon an edit, what I'm saying is, that if Samba nev had KEPT hold of Bellendamy he'd have given the pen away.
He didn't, the foul was outside the box. So like all the other fouls that are outside the box it wasn't a pen
*sorry for the DM way of explaining something
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Samba nev?
Im allso not entirely sure the corner for the 2nd goal wasnt more - "well give it to City anyway" - even though there was no deflection of the ball or even convincing CLEAR (not blurred) footage that his foot may have got to the ball
Penalty was a joke - trust Dean to decide the game with a ludicrous decision
Saying that for all their wealth spent on the team Utd really hammered them for majority of the game (yes City did have majority of the best chances in the first half - but none where really dangerous, 2nd half Utd must have had nearly a dozen chances all in all and it was last ditch defending all the way)
I knew Fergie should have bought Given before City got their hands on him - VDS is a great keeper but Given is just as good if not better and can still play for 10 years (not sure how old he is lol) he was easily more worthy of the MOTM for me above argie bargie
Rafael - brazilian (twin) right back
Penalty was a joke - trust Dean to decide the game with a ludicrous decision
Saying that for all their wealth spent on the team Utd really hammered them for majority of the game (yes City did have majority of the best chances in the first half - but none where really dangerous, 2nd half Utd must have had nearly a dozen chances all in all and it was last ditch defending all the way)
I knew Fergie should have bought Given before City got their hands on him - VDS is a great keeper but Given is just as good if not better and can still play for 10 years (not sure how old he is lol) he was easily more worthy of the MOTM for me above argie bargie
Rafael - brazilian (twin) right back
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So only a few years
So only a few years
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Samba nev?
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The brasil twins at full back.
The samba nevs
The samba nevs
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Who made that up?
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Don't get it
That was quite a game. I'm not sure who is worst, Bellamy or Tevez. Tevez's "celebrations" were pretty classless and inflammatory. I'm sure people would point to the abuse he's had but lets not forget that his comments before and after leaving are what caused the ill feeling. Nor should he forget all the fans that still loved him (for whatever reason). And for him to make the "talking" gesture to anyone...Well, i'd be tempted to ask if he knew the meaning of irony but I'm pretty sure what the answer is.
I'm not SAF's biggest fan but it's annoying all the papers will be spinning things to say how us not keeping him was this huge mistake. The fact is we don't know whose choice it was for him to leave - both sides offer a different story. And lets not assume he would be scoring like this had he stayed. He has many quality's as a striker and technique or intelligence aren't some of them. Against teams who "park the bus" a player like him would be less effective. This was clear during his stay with us - he did not score often.
So I still could not argue with SAF's decision not to pay such huge money for him (if indeed he chose not too).
Other than Tevez, I thought the game was fairly even. Despite the mandatory MOTM award going to the goalscorer, for me only Rooney stood out and only when he actually played in his position - behind a target man.
For me, SAF's wasting of Rooneys talent since signing him is probably his greatest failure he's made as manager. Talk of he and Owen being unable to play together is nonsense but if SAF really believes that (and I fear he does) the real question is how he can loose the goals of Ronaldo, see Berba struggle and only bring one forward in, who he is not prepared to play with his main striker!
Can anyone clarify the away goal situation? Would a 4-3 UTD win see it to ET but then mean a goaless ET would see City through?
I'm not SAF's biggest fan but it's annoying all the papers will be spinning things to say how us not keeping him was this huge mistake. The fact is we don't know whose choice it was for him to leave - both sides offer a different story. And lets not assume he would be scoring like this had he stayed. He has many quality's as a striker and technique or intelligence aren't some of them. Against teams who "park the bus" a player like him would be less effective. This was clear during his stay with us - he did not score often.
So I still could not argue with SAF's decision not to pay such huge money for him (if indeed he chose not too).
Other than Tevez, I thought the game was fairly even. Despite the mandatory MOTM award going to the goalscorer, for me only Rooney stood out and only when he actually played in his position - behind a target man.
For me, SAF's wasting of Rooneys talent since signing him is probably his greatest failure he's made as manager. Talk of he and Owen being unable to play together is nonsense but if SAF really believes that (and I fear he does) the real question is how he can loose the goals of Ronaldo, see Berba struggle and only bring one forward in, who he is not prepared to play with his main striker!
Can anyone clarify the away goal situation? Would a 4-3 UTD win see it to ET but then mean a goaless ET would see City through?