CES 2025 AMD & Nvidia Keynote Live Chat [06/01/25]

Meddling-Monk · Tuesday at 04:05

I swear, this presentation has been one movie reference after another; Terminator, Iron Man 2, now Avatar...

Purgatory · Tuesday at 04:05

Sedgey123 said:
So going by Nvidia's site about DLSS 4, the cyberpunk video is slightly misleading as its using DLSS 3.5 on the 4000 series but DLSS 4 on the 5000 series, not sure why they didn't use DLSS 4 on the 4090 to compare... i know it will still be a big difference but interesting why they did that...

Because the 4090 doesn't support DLSS4.

Steve Bruce · Tuesday at 04:05

brostradamus said:
it was just an analysis of the situation

I quoted you but wasn't aimed at you specifically, there's been several posts by multiple people with a gloating vibe to it. Certainly nothing personal to you

MyBrainz · Tuesday at 04:06

ONE MORE THING

RavenXXX2 · Tuesday at 04:06

Meddling-Monk said:
lol, yeah, it's been near 90 minutes now. Very little GPU info, but what they put out already sunk any competition out there, so I suppose they could do what they want really...

How's that? without fake frames the performance will be hardly up on ada. Nvidia be selling you software that a modder released months back for current gen cards. Reviews will show the real picture. Telling that Nvidia has not shown performance without frame gen.

banbom44 · Tuesday at 04:07

Purgatory said:
Because the 4090 doesn't support DLSS4.

It does.

TNA · Tuesday at 04:07

Grim5 said:
You guys can't say Jensen didn't warn us

Last year he said Moore's law is dead and future GPUs would get most of their performance from fake AI, and that's exactly what's Nvidia has delivered - RTX5000 gets most of it's performance from AI frames

Are you buying a 5090?

RavenXXX2 · Tuesday at 04:08

banbom44 said:
It does.

Not thr 4x fake frames part.

Meddling-Monk · Tuesday at 04:08

RavenXXX2 said:
How's that? without fake frames the performance will be hardly up on ada. Nvidia be selling you software that a modder released months back for current gen cards. Reviews will show the real picture. Telling that Nvidia has not shown performance without frame gen.

Performance wasn't the thing that ended the competition - It's the pricing aspect as well.

Hostile_18 · Tuesday at 04:09

Steve Bruce said:
I quoted you but wasn't aimed at you specifically, there's been several posts by multiple people with a gloating vibe to it. Certainly nothing personal to you

Because AMD have had the benefit of the doubt so many times before and today they not only fumbled again, but wasted everyone's time who was interested in their products. Before the conference most were really positive they would be able to turn the ship around. Intel are our best hope for true competition now IMO.

Steve Bruce · Tuesday at 04:10

TNA said:
You start taking delight when AMD keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. You just got to give up and laugh in the end. This is coming from someone who used to mainly buy Radeon GPU's and disliked Jensen and his 970 4gb fiasco.

Why book a CES slot before nvidia and present what they did. Does no one have any marketing experience over there?

I can't disagree with the shambles amd are when it comes to marketing and it's actually unfathomable how they are so bad at it for so long.

Purgatory · Tuesday at 04:11

TNA said:
You start taking delight when AMD keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. You just got to give up and laugh in the end. This is coming from someone who used to mainly buy Radeon GPU's and disliked Jensen and his 970 4gb fiasco.

Why book a CES slot before nvidia and present what they did. Does no one have any marketing experience over there?

Take delight is not the exact statement I would make but sadness ATI got purchased by AMD and destroyed in this manner.

Sedgey123 · Tuesday at 04:11

Purgatory said:
Because the 4090 doesn't support DLSS4.

It does.. it just doesn't have multi frame generation.

If you read it even says that dlss 4 and normal frame generation will have an uplift on the 4000 series cards

RavenXXX2 · Tuesday at 04:11

Meddling-Monk said:
Performance wasn't the thing that ended the competition - It's the pricing aspect as well.

You know AMDs pricing? I'm not interested in fake frames.

TNA · Tuesday at 04:12

Hostile_18 said:
Because AMD have had the benefit of the doubt so many times before and today they not only fumbled again, but wasted everyone's time who was interested in their products. Before the conference most were really positive they would be able to turn the ship around. Intel are our best hope for true competition now IMO.

Why you being so hostile toward AMD bruv?

banbom44 · Tuesday at 04:12

2 years times DLSS 5 then in another two years DLSS 6 that's 2000 pounds please suckers.

TNA · Tuesday at 04:13

RavenXXX2 said:
You know AMDs pricing? I'm not interested in fake frames.

What exactly are you interested in?

Purgatory · Tuesday at 04:14

banbom44 said:
It does.

DLSS 3.5 is what a 40 series supports.

DLSS 4 is 50 series only.

Rroff · Tuesday at 04:15

Purgatory said:
DLSS 3.5 is what a 40 series supports.

DLSS 4 is 50 series only.

That is just what gen a version of DLSS was introduced with - you can run 3.5 on 3000 series, etc.

Meddling-Monk · Tuesday at 04:15

And a traditional Warp Jump from Star Trek to finish off...