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CES 2025 AMD & Nvidia Keynote Live Chat [06/01/25]

Yep. Only way AMD get this right now is hitting £399 or £449 at most. If they can do that it will still be a win for them.

That said I would still go 5070 Ti. 9070XT doesn't offer me anything over what I have.
And I really wanted something disruptive from AMD- all I got was a disruptive and confusing evening lmao.

This morning Jensen turned me over to the Green side.

5070ti 16gb should last me for ages at 1440p so 80 class=70ti pricing now. We just have to accept it and upgrade more frequently I guess?
 
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And I really wanted something disruptive from AMD- all I got was a disruptive and confusing evening lmao.

This morning Jensen turned me over to the Green side.

5070ti 16gb should last me for ages at 1440p so 80 class=70ti pricing now. We just have to accept it and upgrade more frequently I guess?
maybe AMD knew something we didn't which is why they announced nothing.

I agree though amd need under 499 to make sense now.

It's weird I get why the 5080 is under 1000 the 4080 stalled bad at the start due to price, it's just weird Nvidia seemed to learn the lesson.
 
While Jensen clearly won round 1 of CES he was still good'ol "Cringe Huang". I don't buy for 1 second that the 5070 is as fast as a 4090, it has to be the usual nvidia BS by using blackwell specific feature sets vs Ada's limited feature sets in very specific games to achieve those kind of results. The 5070 has 3/4 the Tensor throughput and about half the RT throughput while sporting 10.000 less cuda cores. So unless those cores run at over 2x the performance there is no way that the 5070 is as fast as a 4090 in regular day to day gaming. Looking forward to the reviews. My guess is that you would need a 5080 to get similar performance to the 4090 in your average game.

EDIT: The 5090 board however, looks like an insane piece of engineering though.
 
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While Jensen clearly won round 1 of CES he was still good'ol "Cringe Huang". I don't buy for 1 second that the 5070 is as fast as a 4090, it has to be the usual nvidia BS by using blackwell specific feature sets vs Ada's limited feature sets in very specific games to achieve those kind of results. The 5070 has 3/4 the Tensor throughput and about half the RT throughput while sporting 10.000 less cuda cores. So unless those cores run at over 2x the performance there is no way that the 5070 is as fast as a 4090 in regular day to day gaming. Looking forward to the reviews. My guess is that you would need a 5080 to get similar performance to the 4090 in your average game.

EDIT: The 5090 board however, looks like an insane piece of engineering though.
Smaller than a 4090
 
All well and good it's just a shame the game catalogue on PC right now is currently jank, I have no reason to upgrade from anything as there is nothing I want to play and everything I do play is years old and can run on any half decent GPU.
I'm back to playing the division 2. There isn't anything new I fancy at the moment outside of Indiana Jones.
 
I'm back to playing the division 2. There isn't anything new I fancy at the moment outside of Indiana Jones.

About the only game which would get my interest right now is if they remade the first The Division, so much unused potential with that game and it is crying out for a proper ray tracing renderer - a good one not these half-baked hybrid "ray tracing" renderers.
 
About the only game which would get my interest right now is if they remade the first The Division, so much unused potential with that game and it is crying out for a proper ray tracing renderer - a good one not these half-baked hybrid "ray tracing" renderers.
Well I don't care about the ray tracing part but I agree otherwise. The Division was/is good and could use an upgrade.
 
Well I don't care about the ray tracing part but I agree otherwise. The Division was/is good and could use an upgrade.

One of the things which was so great about the original game was the attention to detail (and mood) with the graphics - properly done ray tracing and particle physics, etc. would take it to another level (the lack of physics on smoke and steam, etc. and on snow was quite immersion breaking for me given the detail otherwise used visually).
 
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And I really wanted something disruptive from AMD- all I got was a disruptive and confusing evening lmao.

This morning Jensen turned me over to the Green side.

5070ti 16gb should last me for ages at 1440p so 80 class=70ti pricing now. We just have to accept it and upgrade more frequently I guess?

More loyal Radeon customers lost. Soon the usual lot will turn on you, watch your back :p
 
It is sad. But it could have been worse with the AI craze on.

Would be nice if they can hit £699 with the 5070 Ti FE.

When you consider last gen prices, not to sad.

Their website suggests won't be an FE for the 5070Ti :


Founders Edition Yes
Varies by manufacturer
Founders Edition Yes
Varies by manufacturer
Varies by manufacturerFounders Edition Yes
Varies by manufacturer
 
Tbh I don't think so, it's hard to support the underdog after these 2 events.

One came in faster and cheaper than expected the other didn't turn up.
Isn't it a bit to early to say the race is over? I could understand the sentiment if nvidia's new offerings was available right now but they aren't. All we know is what nvidia is willing to sell their new offerings for and when they are available. Performance is still up in the air and I am 95% positive that it won't be as good as that presentation made it out to be.
 
The updates to Reflex sound fantastic, that's one of the main things I feel like I'm missing since moving from my 3070 to the 7900XT.

All of the 'competitive' games I play have the Reflex option and would just feel ever so slightly snappier on the Nvidia card - and great that they featured The Finals (along with Valorant) as the example title as that's the FPS game I play the most. I don't think it'll bump me up the ranks (have finished top 1k EU for the last 3 seasons now) but I do think these sort of updates are fantastic improvements.

 
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