Champions League Spoilers 21st/22nd Feb

daz.wallace · 23 Feb 2006 at 11:39

Gooner14 said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/4627940.stm

Basically played with one eye since 9.

Not my day today, everybody is picking up on things I say

Gooner14 · 23 Feb 2006 at 11:41

I only said about it as I knew about Shiels

. I certainly never heard any mention about that whilst he was at Arsenal, so it proves how amazingly well he has done.

JohnnyG · 23 Feb 2006 at 11:47

Burned_Alive said:
Mourinho fury at 'cheating' Messi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4737848.stm
Funny how hes quick to condemn messi when his own player did the exact same thing not very long ago.

I know, at least it was OK for Benitez to spout off about Robben though, as his players have never cheated

Tru · 23 Feb 2006 at 11:51

Gooner14 said:
I only said about it as I knew about Shiels. I certainly never heard any mention about that whilst he was at Arsenal, so it proves how amazingly well he has done.

did you use that smiley on purpose? That's pretty cruel

Gooner14 · 23 Feb 2006 at 11:53

Perhaps

Of course I could have used :cool:

That smiley always looks like a blind man to me

IceBus · 23 Feb 2006 at 11:56

Weebull said:
Apparently the BBC reckon Sissoko could lose some vision in his right eye after the challenge on tuesday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4738220.stm

Poor bloke. Not the kind of injury I'd wish on anyone.

That's pretty terrible

I hope he makes a full recovery soon, he's been a promising player from what I've seen of him.

Gilly · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:22

JohnnyG said:
I know, at least it was OK for Benitez to spout off about Robben though, as his players have never cheated

Beat me to it.

Weebull · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:24

Wouldn't a lack of depth perception really hamper your ability as a footballer? I guess not, given Shiels seems to do alright, but I would have thought so.

Gooner14 said:

Now now, there's no need to mock the poor guy!

Gilly · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:27

He's had to deal with it from childhood though. I reckon having to deal with it from such a young age makes it easier to adapt to it than having to later in life.

Errol · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:28

I would love to see Chelsea get a real hammering in the return leg.

A humiliation. Perhaps 4 or 5 nil. A hattrick from Messi and a goal a piece from Etoo and Ronaldinho would be excellent.

Chelsea need a good stuffing. In particular, the insufferably arrogant and jumped-up twit Mourino.

Burned_Alive · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:37

JohnnyG said:
I know, at least it was OK for Benitez to spout off about Robben though, as his players have never cheated

They certainly dont cheat to the extent of throwing themselves to the ground in the way Robben did or how Del Horno was rolling around on the ground and screaming yesterday.

Interesting add on article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4742654.stm
Does Jose Mourinho believe it is impossible for Chelsea to lose without it being down to a mistake from an official or an act of cheating?

Gilly · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:38

Its always the case that people want to see the best team fail, so I'm not surprised people want Chelsea to lose...

Burned_Alive said:
They certainly dont cheat to the extent of throwing themselves to the ground in the way Robben did or how Del Horno was rolling around on the ground and screaming yesterday.

Yes they do.

Burned_Alive · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:39

Gilly said:
Yes they do.

Name a few then

Gilly · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:43

Burned_Alive said:
Name a few then

Kewell an uncountable amount of times has gone down/dived far too easily.

Kromkamp did almost exactly what Robben did a week or too before Robben's antics, except his was worse because no-one actually touched him whereas Reina deserved his red card.

Naan_H · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:46

Gilly said:
Reina deserved his red card.

Reina wasnt cheating tho

Burned_Alive · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:48

Gilly said:
Kewell an uncountable amount of times has gone down/dived far too easily.

Kromkamp did almost exactly what Robben did a week or too before Robben's antics, except his was worse because no-one actually touched him whereas Reina deserved his red card.

Ill agree that Kewell will take a dive, but in no way the same kind of, what can only be described as acting, from Robben and Del Horno. Also Kromkamp didnt do what Robben did, yes he dived and it was utterly ridiculous, but he got up and didnt roll around on the floor acting injured like Robben and Del Horno did, when clearly they werent (trying to force the ref to give cards). To say Kromkamps was worse is an absolute joke. Kromkamp was also very new to Liverpool and the premiership at the time and was told by Benitez afterwards that sort of thing wasnt acceptable for a Liverpool player.

To try and compare them is ridiculous, small dives have become a part of football sadly, but the theatrics coming from some players is pathetic.

Gilly · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:51

Surely its either a dive or its not? Both are dispicable and I'd have a go at Leeds players if they were diving - I used to do so with Kewell though he seems to do it more these days. Robben dropped to the floor like he'd been felled by a heavyweight's punch but he had actually had someone offend against him.

maby66 · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:54

So what do you call the blatent timewasting from Garcia at the Birmingham game - he put the ring from his finger in his mouth when examined by the 4th official, then took it out and put it back on his finger when running on, then made sure that the ref sees it and he has to go off again to take it off, thus running down the clock and giving his team a breathing space against Birmingham who were trying to get back in the game.
Pre-meditated gamesmanship - cheating in other words.
Stop being so high and mighty - it happens all over.

Burned_Alive · 23 Feb 2006 at 12:56

Gilly said:
Surely its either a dive or its not? Both are dispicable and I'd have a go at Leeds players if they were diving - I used to do so with Kewell though he seems to do it more these days. Robben dropped to the floor like he'd been felled by a heavyweight's punch but he had actually had someone offend against him.

Im sure you're fully aware theres a different level to these things. As i said and has been said by the pundits recently, 'going down' has become part of the game (not saying i like it). But acting injured and going down like you're been shot by a sniper and acting out an injury is unacceptable.

Gilly · 23 Feb 2006 at 13:02

Burned_Alive said:
Im sure you're fully aware theres a different level to these things. As i said and has been said by the pundits recently, 'going down' has become part of the game (not saying i like it). But acting injured and going down like you're been shot by a sniper and acting out an injury is unacceptable.

I am not fully aware actually. One is cheating and the other is cheating. Acting injured and going down is no worse than taking a dive.