Chinese Grand Prix 2010, Shanghai - Race 4/19
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Something else I found funny was after the SC start Webber was straight on the radio telling the team that Lewis edged him off (which was not even his fault anyway), I think he owes Lewis a shunt, remember Australia???
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Having Tony Fernandes in the paddock is handy right now
Gets flown out by FOM and DHL iirc - Something around 600 tons of cargo for the 12 teams plus FOM and FIA gear.
Shifting that to Spain and then trucking it wouldn't be easy. Team truck drivers are in China, trucks are in the UK.
Plus it's packaged up for transport by plane - it'd need to be repacked for truck. 
I tweeted him back - Virgin not taking you up on the offer? Do their planes have large enough fuel tanks to reach their destination?
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Kate called him a "Cheating Spanish mother ******"
Such a classy Mrs I have
She was right. Give her a snog from me
schumacher was really wierd he obviously had no confidence in the cars rear end at all but at his last stop when him and webber both pitted around the same time schumacher was keeping pace with webber pretty much the whole time and they were both going faster than most of the cars infront , schumacher did around 10 laps where he either went faster than rosberg or matched him.
then webber and schumacher slowed down as there tyres started to turn into slicks.
i think schumacher and webber just had equally bad setups for the race and the tyres didnt like it
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Watched the race only. Saw the preview bit just a while ago on iPlayer. How much balls has El Jako got to go round prodding Bernie in the back?! 
Jake is a very good lead for the show and I'm so glad he got the job.
As for the race, Mr Jenson "Won't beat Lewis" Button is doing OK I think? 2 wins from 4 is pretty decent. I tipped Alonso for the title but Button is looking pretty decent considering how virtually none of the F1 establishment gave him a hope in hell's chance of doing anything v Lewis.
I still don't get how someone of Schumacher's calibre and experience can be doing so poorly back in F1. The excuses must surely be running out now? 4 races worth of fitness training and race experience and with Rosberg doing pretty well I just don't see how much longer Brawn, Haug and Schumacher can go on saying its all OK. That said Schumacher did pretty well to hold Lewis off for a few laps considering the state of his tyres.
Jake is a very good lead for the show and I'm so glad he got the job.As for the race, Mr Jenson "Won't beat Lewis" Button is doing OK I think? 2 wins from 4 is pretty decent. I tipped Alonso for the title but Button is looking pretty decent considering how virtually none of the F1 establishment gave him a hope in hell's chance of doing anything v Lewis.
I still don't get how someone of Schumacher's calibre and experience can be doing so poorly back in F1. The excuses must surely be running out now? 4 races worth of fitness training and race experience and with Rosberg doing pretty well I just don't see how much longer Brawn, Haug and Schumacher can go on saying its all OK. That said Schumacher did pretty well to hold Lewis off for a few laps considering the state of his tyres.
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I still think it's a little premature to write Schumacher off completely - but if his relative performace to Rosberg hasn't improved by Turkey after the big updates surely MB would have to focus their efforts on Rosberg, with either Schumacher or dare I say Heidfeld playing the support role - after all theres already a 40 point gap between the two, and unless theres a big improvement to the car the WCC is unrealistic, but the WDC is a possibility if the big teams have their drivers taking points off each other.
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Agreed. Even after Button won last year's title, I didn't hold him in high regard. But based on the first 4 races this year, having outperformed Hamilton, he has gone up in my estimation.
So did I. And after 4 races, he remains my choice of the title, though I do feel Ferrari need to step in, as Massa always seems to get ahead of Alonso and then proceeds to hold Alonso up. This then allows Alonso's rivals to score more points.
My thoughts exactly. Before the season started I was sure that MS would outscore Rosberg, but I have to say that as the season has wore on, Rosberg seems to be pulling away from MS. If this continues, MS's confidence will be eroded, which in turn will effect his on-track performance.
To be fair to MS, he spoke pretty candidly in the post-race interview, where he pretty much stated that today's race was a disaster.
At this point, I'm not sure if MS will last the entire season - consistently being soundly beaten by his team-mate, in equal cars, must be humiliating, given MS's reputation, which he spent 1.5 decades building.
Everybody is talks about upcoming "updates". What they forget is that pretty much every single team is constantly introducing new parts to their cars. It wouldn't surprise me if after the "update", Mercedes fall further behind RedBull, Mercedes and Ferrari.
It would pretty interesting to hear what Ross Brawn has to say about MS's performance, compared with Rosberg.
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The update should help correct any fundemental flaws in the car though that have had to be lived with for the flyaway races, and should be a car better suited to both Rosberg and Schumacher's driving styles than a car originally designed for Jenson's style (which may be more akin to Rosberg than Schumacher).
After the updates, Schumacher shouldn't have any excuses if his performance doesn't match up to Rosberg, and as I said if there isn't a realistic chance at a title, but still a shot for Nico, MB should focus on Nico as their number 1 - to the extent that their teammate may try to back up the competition to their team mates favour at the expense of their own race much like Heikki did for Lewis last year.
You can overtake 50 cars and it still doesn't matter, what matters is where you finish - and Hamilton did not win today, Button did.
Erm. I don't think Heikki did this intentionally. He may have been a bit of a mobile road block, but this was because he was so damn slow - not because he was told to drive slow on purpose.
I mentioned earlier Brundle was saying that Schumi has been having trouble "getting the power on early", it made me wonder if the lack of traction control and other electronic assistance which were banned in the 2008 season is getting the better of him at the moment, his old driving style might just not work anymore.
I don't buy the "three years out", "setup problem" or "car isn't made for him" excuses, fitness aside it should be just like getting on a bike for someone of his experience and you can't blame the car either because Rosberg is showing that it isn't the problem.
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As JB said after the race, once he went off he couldnt generate the tyre temp in such a cold environment, so it wasnt LH doing well it was JB unable to get the temps back up nothing more
Its also the case that JB didnt NEED to push any further being a lap from the end, and with his team mate directly behind him - would be a different story entirely if it had been possibility of McLaren not winning the race....