Chip for 300C

BD10NNF · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:26

Westyfield2 said:
Remap it, don't get a chip/tuning box. All they're doing is giving it more fuel or winding up the boost. A proper remap will change all the points on the map (can't remember the technical term), and will still be using all the sensor readings whereas the chip would just be "OMG GIVE IT MORE FUEL".

Chrysler 3.0 CRD V6 is 218 HP & 510 NM stock, and one mapper claims (for example) to get 258 HP and 600 NM.

Also, it's a lot better to get a proper remap (check it for errors, stick it on the rollers stock, give it a generic 3.0 CRD V6 map on it, stick it on the rollers again, and then customize the map to your engine) done rather than simply a guy coming to you with his laptop and sticking on a generic 3.0 CRD V6 map.

at least someone knows waht they are on about

Jonnycoupe · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:28

Or just knows a Marque.

You dont want to know how more stuff I could do swapping the 28 pin chip in a Honda OBD0/ Pw0 or OBD1 ECU compared to the fudge of a Dastek Unichip.

BD10NNF · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:28

[TW]Fox;14762152 said:
I bet it does.

But then so can.. well, anything really.

do you even know what car i have do a little research and you'll see

[TW]Fox · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:28

A Yaris or something.

iaind · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:28

BD10NNF said:
unfortunately your an arse and seem to be rather big headed and obviously never seen a remap down before in your life or you would know what im on about

D- in your English GCSE this morning?

Janesy B · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:30

BD10NNF said:
unfortunately your an arse and seem to be rather big headed and obviously never seen a remap down before in your life or you would know what im on about

If I could actually understand what the hell you are going on about. I know what a remap is but you keep going on about the cheap chip that your mate stuck on his crappy 206 and your Yaris.

Westyfield2 · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:30

BD10NNF said:
at least someone knows waht they are on about

I don't know jack about chrysler or other stock ECU's, only ever used MBE's and their software (Easymap). But I'd imagine the basics are the same on all modern stock ECU's.

BD10NNF · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:31

iaind said:
D- in your English GCSE this morning?

sorry i miss typed and it doesnt matter sure youve made a mistake before

NVP · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:32

Westyfield2 said:
Remap it, don't get a chip/tuning box. All they're doing is giving it more fuel or winding up the boost. A proper remap will change all the points on the fueling map (can't remember the technical term), and will still be using all the sensor readings whereas the chip would just be "OMG GIVE IT MORE FUEL".

Chrysler 3.0 CRD V6 is 218 HP & 510 NM stock, and one mapper claims (for example) to get 258 HP and 600 NM.

Also, it's a lot better to get a proper remap (check it for errors, stick it on the rollers stock, give it a generic 3.0 CRD V6 map on it, stick it on the rollers again, and then customize the map to your engine) done rather than simply a guy coming to you with his laptop and sticking on a generic 3.0 CRD V6 map.

"winding up the boost"? meaning forcing more air into the turbo or am I not undestanding? Yeah I can see the benefits of a custom remap, but my dad doesn't really want more power, just more mpg. But I suppose a remap could be customed to act more efficient although I'm pretty sure it would decrease performance considerably.
What is wrong with injecting slightley more fuel to increase the performance ration and thus use less fuel in the long run? Also, what is this about the engines being set up to run dirty fuels from other countries and how do the chips or remaps take advantage of this?

iaind · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:32

Janesy B said:
If I could actually understand what the hell you are going on about. I know what a remap is but you keep going on about the cheap chip that your mate stuck on his crappy 206 and your Yaris.

I'm actually struggling to find where people have reccomended something other than a proper remap :confused:

Janesy B · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:32

BD10NNF said:
sorry i miss typed and it doesnt matter sure youve made a mistake before

You type like an idiot, which doesn't help your cause.

iaind said:
I'm actually struggling to find where people have reccomended something other than a proper remap

This thread has descended into farce. A remap was suggested more than anything else.

iaind · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:34

nuvpal said:
"winding up the boost"? meaning forcing more air into the turbo or am I not undestanding?

Basically turning the turbo up to 11

Most modern turbos are variable geometry, controlled either electronically or by a vacuum system - this means the boost can be upped by the ECU

BD10NNF · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:34

i keep going on about a chip cause they are RUBBISH and should be avoided at all cost and the best thing to get is a remap

iaind · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:35

BD10NNF said:
i keep going on about a chip cause they are RUBBISH and should be avoided at all cost and the best thing to get is a remap

Thats what everyone else has been saying, do you have anything else to add that hasnt already been said?

Janesy B · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:36

BD10NNF said:
i keep going on about a chip cause they are RUBBISH and should be avoided at all cost and the best thing to get is a remap

We know you said that, as demonstrated in this fantastic post. In fact, I'm making that my sig as it's so awesome.

BD10NNF said:
yeah them chips things are rubbish

Who has even suggested that a chip would be beneficial in this case?

NVP · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:37

BD10NNF said:
i keep going on about a chip cause they are RUBBISH and should be avoided at all cost and the best thing to get is a remap

Oh I see, thank you.

iaind said:
I'm actually struggling to find where people have reccomended something other than a proper remap

So is a remap the general concensus? Are chips that unsafe? Or just not very effective?

BD10NNF · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:40

well i do apologize What would be good is if you could get something like a vTec controller they are really fun to mess around with by moving the power band around depending on what type of run you are on. (like moving the power band lower down so that you have low down torque when drivin around town)

iaind · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:40

nuvpal said:
So is a remap the general concensus? Are chips that unsafe? Or just not very effective?

I would say they're the best bet - for the main reason that they should be able to tweak the map for economy rather than outright powwwaah.

I personally wouldnt want to be fooling sensors on any engine, let alone a complex common rail diesel so the cheap "tuning boxes" are a definite no no (like these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHRYSLER-JEEP...s_SM?hash=item3ca33e3e08&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)

The more expensive chips...who knows, I don't know much about them at all - I cant really see the benefit as they arent any cheaper than a remap anyway

[TW]Fox · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:40

BD10NNF said:
well i do apologize What would be good is if you could get something like a vTec controller they are really fun to mess around with by moving the power band around depending on what type of run you are on. (like moving the power band lower down so that you have low down torque when drivin around town)

What?

iaind · 27 Aug 2009 at 15:41

[TW]Fox;14762306 said:
What?

Vtec just kicked in, y0.

I suspect he's babbling on about some sort of variable resistor, which he's just said is rubbish. That or its something Honda VTEC specific that has no relevance to a Chrysler diesel