Cities Skylines 2 is Official!

Yeah, it’s worth stating the power & pipes can all go deeper than 10m to avoid obstacles if need be. I had an underground high voltage line going 10m under the surface and it ended up blocking my attempts to run a short rail line under the highway. It had me confused for a while :D

I also had my first game crash last night, quickly followed by #2 & 3 :D I’ve been overdue I guess.
Was just starting on an educational are near my newly established downtown area, and it really didn’t like putting an extension on the college.
I’ve been working on city #4 recently, same map as last 2 attempts and things are looking better. I decided to focus on the urban sprawl & industry area (factories & small offices for a business park) to begin with and create my high-rise area on the other side of the highway and allow plenty of room for it to put down its roots. Then hopefully public transport will weave through.

I was thinking earlier about an idea of creating a gated community and preventing them from parking on the roads, but have a few large car parks at the entrance and do a park & ride type setup (free bus).
 
I dynno I've not had any performance issues at all really.

Another promising thing, is I've not noticed any significant slow down as my city has grown, I'm past 100k now, and on the original that was getting to the point of the game being almost unplayable, whilst my city is running perfectly fine.
 
At least with the CS1 if your frames dropped you could just crank up the pagefile and performance remained above 20fps, problem is for a lot of systems it's just not playable, still a bag of poo on my Ally, 4080 has no problems like but when it's not available it's a bit of a PITA.
 
Anyone having an issue with the mail service as your city gets bigger?

Not sure what is going on but my mail service is broken or something, when I click on the distrubution centres is says zero being processed, I have 2 of them. Then plenty of regular post offices but if I click on those shows mail storage, which does show mail being stored, but then nothing being delivered. I have plenty of mail boxes around.

I'm really not sure, but wondering if it was working prior to building the distribution centres, I might try disabling them and see what happens.
 
Anyone having an issue with the mail service as your city gets bigger?

Not sure what is going on but my mail service is broken or something, when I click on the distrubution centres is says zero being processed, I have 2 of them. Then plenty of regular post offices but if I click on those shows mail storage, which does show mail being stored, but then nothing being delivered. I have plenty of mail boxes around.

I'm really not sure, but wondering if it was working prior to building the distribution centres, I might try disabling them and see what happens.

Sounds like it's modern day Royal Mail realistic. ;)
 
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There seems to be a big between the cargo terminals and the mail distribution centres.

If you have one or the other it seems to work, if you have both, you get problems.
 
Ahh hotfix patch.

My garbage has gone from barely coping to, 73k of processing for 4k of garbage, lol.

Although it buggered my electricity up a bit.

Also my mail issue seems to have fixed itself?
 
Not seeing any performance issues here - playing on a Rog Flow X16 with 13900H and 4070 mobile... 100k city easily still getting above 30fps and I'm playing at 5120x1440p

New hotfix out today - looks like it hopefully fixes some annoying issues..
 
I wish I had the tools you get in the first one.

I could detail this up and make it look really nice. Oh well, the mods will come, I must have patience.

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....pun totally intended.
 
Anyone having an issue with the mail service as your city gets bigger?

Not sure what is going on but my mail service is broken or something, when I click on the distrubution centres is says zero being processed, I have 2 of them. Then plenty of regular post offices but if I click on those shows mail storage, which does show mail being stored, but then nothing being delivered. I have plenty of mail boxes around.

I'm really not sure, but wondering if it was working prior to building the distribution centres, I might try disabling them and see what happens.
I think they can be buggy when placed , try moving them

Still don't understand why my money goes up nicely yet says negative money lol
milestone money?
 
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Anyone having an issue with the mail service as your city gets bigger?

Not sure what is going on but my mail service is broken or something, when I click on the distrubution centres is says zero being processed, I have 2 of them. Then plenty of regular post offices but if I click on those shows mail storage, which does show mail being stored, but then nothing being delivered. I have plenty of mail boxes around.

I'm really not sure, but wondering if it was working prior to building the distribution centres, I might try disabling them and see what happens.

There seems to be a big between the cargo terminals and the mail distribution centres.

If you have one or the other it seems to work, if you have both, you get problems.
Yeah, the various cargo terminals are seemingly causing havok for quite a few things.

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You can see from this image that this one cargo train terminal is holding 446t of Garbage, and 375t of Local Mail. Theres also 'Unsorted Mail' that finds itself here.

Im not 100% sure how these cargo terminals are functioning, it certainly doesnt feel like they work how you'd expect them to be in terms of resource management.
From what i can tell, they're simply acting as warehouses attached to a specific infrastructure network (and road, if we're nit-picking).
They're not used to move goods around your city, ie from a forest/mining/farming specialisation zone to the industrial area. Its purely a warehouse, and they'll fill it with EVERYTHING, whether you want it or not.
Then when an industry needs a resource, they'll go to the nearest place which holds it.

The way the game handles industry is really disappointing IMO. I mentioned the other day that im exporting tons of wood, and importing tons of planks.
I tried setting the plank tax to -10% and deleting a load of buildings, but the game doesnt care. It has a ratio and its ALWAYS going to stick to it. You delete a building > Car factory. Delete again > Petrochemicals > T-Shirt > Car Factory > Petrochemicals.... It isnt generating them randomly, it knows you've got more plank factories than car factories, so its gonna keep trying to push that car factory on you.
So even though you've got local resources to produce many goods cheaply, they dont care whats cheap & plentiful, it doesnt let you try and specialise in what works for you, it simply wants you to make everything, even if that means importing it and those businesses whining about cost of goods.

milestone money?
Nah, its very much borked.
The most common thing i notice is having a significant deficit in my budget, and it just goes down by 1 each tick. ONE.
Theres SOOO much broken in this game. Its just fortunate that the 'city painter' aspect is fun.


Glad to see theres a new patch, i guess Gamepass will have to wait to get it on Monday, again :(
I hope it actually takes MS 4 days to approve it, and its not 2 days and a weekend off thats holding it up, cos it'd be annoying if we're having to wait twice as long because CO keep pushing updates just before a weekend.


@BUDFORCE do you have any cargo terminals, and are they still stockpiling goods like Garbage & Mail that dont seem to be being collected, or is that looking better now with this update?
I assume things like this are supposed to be collected by the incinerator & post/sorting office, but for some reason they simply dont seem to do it. I put a sorting facility down next to a train terminal and it did immediately get 2 truck fulls, but since then i havent seen it do anything and its holding 33k mail.
 
Oooh, the update seems to be available on Gamepass already.

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The incinerators seem to have been completely reworked.
Was 20 trucks, now 50 (!!)
The power generated is significantly less. Someone on reddit decompiled and compared the changes, and one of them was the power formula for incinerators, changing a multiply into a divide. So seems like someone screwed up how much it generates, rather than it being a balance tweak.

I wish i'd took screenshots beforehand, but my global garbage is now significantly better. 1.2k/mo generated, capable of handling 14.5k.

Mail is still an issue, and im not sure what im supposed to do about it. My suburban areas are delighted with reliable mail service (+7) and yet my downtown area they're fuming, saying its unreliable (-15).

A post office tool-tip states:
Mail To Deliver is sorted local mail waiting to be delivered to recipients within the city.
Collected Mail is mail collected from the city waiting for transport to a sorting facility.

My post offices have plenty of 'Collected Mail', however i've just plonked a sorting office within 800m & 300m of 2 nearby post offices, and the sorting office is doing nothing.
 
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Mines working but I don't have any trains on my current map yet.

On my last map I did though and it worked fine.
I know sometimes when I've placed them it's like they bug and do nothing, I had the same in Cities Skylines I when it came to the post

You guys know the 2 different buildings are for different types of post right?
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From the sounds of it it's not the normal post office trucks that use Sorting Offices but bigger trucks coming from other cities.
I've never watched it to see what happens when "vehicles are in use" though
 
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I go no problems with money. I aint cheating either:

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There is my city, still work in progress, I am going to put another built up area left of the wind turbines way in the distance and opposite the other built up area over the river. Not as big though.

Otherwise its getting there, I might put some more small villages/towns around the outskirts, I have done a couple already, but it's shaping up to overall looking how I want it.

Just don't look so close at some parts, becuase they look awful, this is where (hopefully) as mods start coming out I can get in and detail bits and tidy them up.

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Actually another thing I miss from the first, maybe this was a mod I cannot remember, but you could change the orientation of the zoning from the roads, or stop roads creating zoning all together.


On this it seems somewhat random which orientation the zoning is created from roads. I don't tend to build in grids as I prefer them looking more European/UK and rather than the typically grid based American cites.
 
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