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Con Lake Con firmed [Warning: AdoredTV]
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Its all good @bru
Just? you can't see it, he's made it private since yesterday, to give Rayan Shrout a chance to respond to it without an army of fanboys trolling him.
His latest video, where he blames NV for high prices and not the silly people who pay it. Glad he don't get many views.
I'm not too sure what he was trying to get out of this apart from looking like a bit of a tool. Inciting, now matter how indirectly, his little army of fanboys to go and dogpile and harass people was never going to reflect very well on him even if PC perpective did update things.
On a slightly more interesting note, in the video he alluded to being put up to this by someone else within the tech press. I can't help but wonder if he is being played by others into airing other peoples dirty laundry.
As for PC Perspective engaging in dodgy practices, I can't say it surprises me that much.
On a slightly more interesting note, in the video he alluded to being put up to this by someone else within the tech press. I can't help but wonder if he is being played by others into airing other peoples dirty laundry.
As for PC Perspective engaging in dodgy practices, I can't say it surprises me that much.
I've only watched the first 2/3 of the video so far so maybe he explicitly tells people to "dogpile" PcPer later on, but so far all he's done is trying to point out differences in approach between AMD issues and nVidia/Intel issues. I don't understand why people think calling out bias (no matter how intentional or not), malpractice, or pure BS, is wrong because it might make people angry?? If you're not upsetting those with power as a journalist, you're a bad one.
I'd be happy to see a rebuttal of the video, particularly in the form of a reasoned response from PCPer, but so far all I see are ad hominems ("biased", "fanboy", etc.).
Particularly ironic since he questions in the video why PcPer would "air AMD's dirty laundry" in public but not nVidia's or Intel's.
I've only watched the first 2/3 of the video so far so maybe he explicitly tells people to "dogpile" PcPer later on, but so far all he's done is trying to point out differences in approach between AMD issues and nVidia/Intel issues. I don't understand why people think calling out bias (no matter how intentional or not), malpractice, or pure BS, is wrong because it might make people angry?? If you're not upsetting those with power as a journalist, you're a bad one.
I'd be happy to see a rebuttal of the video, particularly in the form of a reasoned response from PCPer, but so far all I see are ad hominems ("biased", "fanboy", etc.).
Particularly ironic since he questions in the video why PcPer would "air AMD's dirty laundry" in public but not nVidia's or Intel's.
Funny how he doesn't call AMD out for shenanigans though
These are AMD's own slides for the 560, manipulating the bars to show a greater lead.
At first glance, it looks like nothing is wrong. However, take a closer look:
We all know he won't make a video on this though, nor how AMD were asking reviewers to only benchmark ryzen CPU's at 4k before it launched.
It happens on both sides, yet he wants to turn it around like the world hates AMD.
Funny how he doesn't call AMD out for shenanigans though
These are AMD's own slides for the 560, manipulating the bars to show a greater lead.
At first glance, it looks like nothing is wrong. However, take a closer look:
We all know he won't make a video on this though, nor how AMD were asking reviewers to only benchmark ryzen CPU's at 4k before it launched.
It happens on both sides, yet he wants to turn it around like the world hates AMD.
wow, lol.....
Funny how he doesn't call AMD out for shenanigans though
These are AMD's own slides for the 560, manipulating the bars to show a greater lead.
At first glance, it looks like nothing is wrong. However, take a closer look:
We all know he won't make a video on this though, nor how AMD were asking reviewers to only benchmark ryzen CPU's at 4k before it launched.
It happens on both sides, yet he wants to turn it around like the world hates AMD.
I don't see any issues with the first image, the scale doesn't look noticeably off. What am i missing? This assumes the figures are correct...
Oh come on @gavinh87 now your just reading into something that isn't there with them graphs or just plain trolling
Have you actually watched the vid ?
The vid on the whole isn't about AMD/intel specifically it was about the reporting practices of pcper in general.
Have you actually watched the vid ?
The vid on the whole isn't about AMD/intel specifically it was about the reporting practices of pcper in general.
From memory the closest he gets is telling people to tell Ryan to chose between Pcper and Shrout Research.
I don't understand your point. He acknowledges his bias, there is nothing stopping others rebutting him or making videos pointing out AMD's misleading press releases or statements also. It's not like he pretends AMD is a 100% persecuted, flawless organisation.Funny how he doesn't call AMD out for shenanigans though
These are AMD's own slides for the 560, manipulating the bars to show a greater lead.
At first glance, it looks like nothing is wrong. However, take a closer look:
We all know he won't make a video on this though, nor how AMD were asking reviewers to only benchmark ryzen CPU's at 4k before it launched.
It happens on both sides, yet he wants to turn it around like the world hates AMD.
Also, the first image you show is actually correct, it's the lower one that isn't. So either someone faked the "incorrect" graphs or, more likely, they were wrong but later corrected. At least if they did correct it they deserve a bit of credit; there are plenty of ******** graphs out there showing ridiculous "differences" that don't get corrected.
Also for anyone that hasn't seen the video, here's a mirror:
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You're making yourself look dumb by commenting without knowing what you're talking about. The video isn't about "bias", in fact he correctly says in it that everyone is biased but you should be up-front about it and as objective as possible. The main thrust of the video is conflict of interest. The first half of the video is basically describing PCPer's perceived bias (e.g. not correcting a claimed FreeSync issue which was in fact a panel issue), in order to set up the latter half, which describes a clear conflict of interest for one of their Intel product reviews.
Is it not a conflict of interest for himself when AMD are sending him GPUs/CPUs?
In suggesting that you should ask yourself should reviewers all buy the hardware they are reviewing? should they be banned from reviewing any products sent to them by anyone?
Just like with any review, it depends if he gets to keep them and if he reveals that he got them for free. I'm OK with reviewers getting loaned stuff for free, but freebies need to be revealed up-front.
Pretty sure both intel/Nvidia + many others have sent stuff to him too.
Nope, which is why I cannot see what his problem is.
ALL reviewers are biased in some way, Jim himself admitted it. Is he going to go after everyone now?
Yeah, you haven't watched it..... you're way off base with this, his issue with PcPer is nothing to do with anything like that, among several things an example would be Ryan was paid by Intel for a white paper which he then used as a review.
Watch the Video when its back.