'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

[Westyfield2]

For all the armchair experts, here's the raw satellite data tracking released by authorities to have a look through: http://www.dca.gov.my/mainpage/MH370 Data Communication Logs.pdf

 

[Cosimo]

For all the armchair experts, here's the raw satellite data tracking released by authorities to have a look through: http://www.dca.gov.my/mainpage/MH370 Data Communication Logs.pdf

Our armchair experts won't make much of it....

Independent experts said the newly released communication logs didn’t include key assumptions, algorithms and metadata needed to validate the investigation team’s conclusions that the plane flew south and crashed in the remote Indian Ocean.

”It’s a whole lot of stuff that is not very important to know,’’ said Michael Exner, a satellite engineer who has been intensively researching the calculations. ``There are probably two or three pages of important stuff, the rest is just noise. It doesn’t add any value to our understanding.’’

More:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...-little-too-late/story-fnizu68q-1226933565972

 

[rubberduck]

I must say I find it highly unlikely that these 'pings' will turn out to be genuine. I wouldn't be surprised if false positives are deliberately being reported by China to keep the story in the news.

Seems I was right as the pings have now been reported as false.

 

[MooMoo444]

Seems like they'll never find this one. RIP

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

Some part of it will turn up sometime in the next 10 years.

If it hit the ocean, then something will be found floating around eventually. Although this will probably not lead to finding the rest of it. If it hit the deck somewhere remote, it will be picked up by some random satellite imaging, or by someone who just stumbles across it.

I do think however, that finding out what happened in those hours between loss of contact and the crash will always be an enigma

 

[Cosimo]

Seems I was right as the pings have now been reported as false.

That report came from US Navy's deputy director of ocean engineering but the US Navy has said it's just speculation.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-...sses-experts-comments-on-search-pings/5485970

Given that the search in the area has found nothing and has ended then you can only come to the conclusion that they were false. Meanwhile a new search will begin August in an area that could be 800 km long and 70km wide and this one will take around 12 months.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-29/mh370-search-zone-not-resting-place-of-plane/5487052

I feel very sorry for all the relatives who may now not have closure for years.

 

[wesley]

what does the bluefin12 do exactly? to find the ping from the plane or just sonar pinger to see the 'shape' of the seabed, hopefully to find the shape of the plane? or not?

 

[Cosimo]

what does the bluefin12 do exactly? to find the ping from the plane or just sonar pinger to see the 'shape' of the seabed, hopefully to find the shape of the plane? or not?

It uses sonar to map the sea floor and has cameras to capture high-resolution black and white images:

More:

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/bluefin-21-autonomous-underwater-vehicle-auv/

 

[wesley]

wow thanks for that

 

[koolpc]

What a mystery it is. Very sad for the families not knowing what happened to their loved ones

 

[Goldy]

Its staggering to think that not a single item of debris has been recovered since it disappeared 7 months ago. Not even a seat or stray item of clothing. Surely this means it crash landed and didn't break up, or is that even possible? Just thinking out loud here.

 

[Hyburnate]

Its staggering to think that not a single item of debris has been recovered since it disappeared 7 months ago. Not even a seat or stray item of clothing. Surely this means it crash landed and didn't break up, or is that even possible? Just thinking out loud here.

No, it's not really possible. Aircraft are designed for the air not the water they pretty much always will break up when they hit water especially if they "crash land".

 

[MooMoo444]

Hitting water at high speed is no different to hitting concrete. It would have been obliterated. The lack of floating debris is odd though, but not completely out of the question given the size of the indian ocean.

 

[mejinks]

If it hit water and not landed safely on land after being hijacked....

 

[Goldy]

...Aircraft are designed for the air not the water...

Yes I would agree with this statement. I wonder if the investigators are ruling out the possibility it didn't break up? The whole thing is so strange!

My theory is it broke up on impact in the Indian Ocean and some kind of weather or ocean phenomena has caused the debris to isolate in a small patch somewhere. Certainly don't think it landed somewhere without anyone noticing, the World aint that big!

 

[Talbs13]

It's at the bottom of the ocean. Similar to the Hudson crash, landed on water (unlikely given how choppy the Indian Ocean is) and sunk.

Is it possible? Yes, likely? No.

It's a bloody mystery and we may never find the reason. Very very sad for the families that still believe they are alive.

 

[Hyburnate]

It's at the bottom of the ocean. Similar to the Hudson crash, landed on water (unlikely given how choppy the Indian Ocean is) and sunk.

Is it possible? Yes, likely? No.

It's a bloody mystery and we may never find the reason. Very very sad for the families that still believe they are alive.

Yeah Hudson was really lucky, the execution was great but it was controlled (to a degree) but if you look at the Air France crash that came down into water and broke up on impact, it'll usually break into 3+ pieces.

 

[Jokester]

It's entirely possible that it landed in one piece. Indeed, the longer it goes without any debris washing up anywhere the more likely it becomes.

 

[norm]

I'm glad we can find the remnants of the Beagle 2 lander on Mars but not a trace of this plane on earth.

 

[Redgie]

Damn it norm, I thought there was news