'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

ikillbears · 20 Jan 2015 at 17:32

norm said:
I'm glad we can find the remnants of the Beagle 2 lander on Mars but not a trace of this plane on earth.

you can see beagle, you can't see the plane

Amp34 · 29 Jan 2015 at 10:28

So, the search has been called off and it has been declared an accident.

We will probau never know what happened now.

Begs the question, when was the last time a commercial plane went missing and has not been found?

EDIT: the search hasn't been called off...

dowie · 29 Jan 2015 at 10:46

Jokester said:
It's entirely possible that it landed in one piece. Indeed, the longer it goes without any debris washing up anywhere the more likely it becomes.

You mean crashed and sunk in one piece.

MooMoo444 · 29 Jan 2015 at 10:50

It'll 'turn up' eventually, like the Air France one did. Might be a while though.

Cosimo · 29 Jan 2015 at 11:04

Amp34 said:
Begs the question, when was the last time a commercial plane went missing and has not been found?

It will be in here:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/events/event.php?code=XX

Amp34 · 29 Jan 2015 at 11:22

Moses said:
Has the search been called off? The BBC 'breaking news' (lol) story said the underwater search was continuing...

This'll be about being able to officially declare everyone dead for insurance/compensation purposes, no?

You're right. I only saw the update on my phone and started wondering when the last plane went missing and was never found.

Hopefully they find it. There are still way too many unanswered questions as to why the plane did what it did. Suicidal pilot decides to fly specific course avoiding radar and then waits until the fuel runs out? Just doesn't cut it for me!

sityeuropa · 1 Mar 2015 at 21:35

If it was a deliberate act they say the flyby past Penang could have been an emotional fairwell for the Captain where he is from.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ysia-flight-MH370-British-pilot-s-theory.html

Fuzz · 1 Mar 2015 at 21:43

A daily mail article... Really... REALLY!

*facepalm

sityeuropa · 1 Mar 2015 at 21:45

Fuzz said:
A daily mail article... Really... REALLY!

*facepalm

Whats that now lefty?

Who cares what newspaper it's from. Fact is the plane veered off course and flew past Penang. I've never heard it was his birth place before.

UTmaniac · 1 Mar 2015 at 21:56

Maybe the pilot was going to write a message in the sky by altering the path of the plane, but after starting the first letter, he realised it was the middle of the night and so the vapour trail would not be seen.

sityeuropa · 1 Mar 2015 at 21:59

SexyGreyFox · 1 Mar 2015 at 22:02

sityeuropa said:
Who cares what newspaper it's from.

You'll learn very quickly that it is a sin to link a story from the DM because all the kiddies are sheep and get their knickers in a twist. Always do your best to link from another source. Hopefully you will be able to laugh when other newspapers catch up with the DM.

Amp34 · 2 Mar 2015 at 21:45

sityeuropa said:
If it was a deliberate act they say the flyby past Penang could have been an emotional fairwell for the Captain where he is from.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ysia-flight-MH370-British-pilot-s-theory.html

So why did he then keep flying for another 6-7 hours, making multiple course corrections on the way?

b0redj0rd · 2 Mar 2015 at 21:53

By FAR, the best source of information I've found on MH17 has been in a professional pilots forum: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/543733-mh17-down-near-donetsk.html

If you have a little time, read the thread. Also a good discussion on mh370 on there.

Jokester · 2 Mar 2015 at 22:12

Amp34 said:
So why did he then keep flying for another 6-7 hours, making multiple course corrections on the way?

To hide that it was a pilot suicide by placing the plane somewhere where he hoped it would never be found.

koolpc · 3 Mar 2015 at 11:59

Are they still searching?

Tefal · 3 Mar 2015 at 12:15

Jokester said:
To hide that it was a pilot suicide by placing the plane somewhere where he hoped it would never be found.

so was his copilot in on it or did he murder him first?

wesley · 3 Mar 2015 at 12:16

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/01/us-malaysia-airlines-australia-idUSKBN0LX1RS20150301

norm · 3 Mar 2015 at 15:16

Assuming the plane landed completely intact on the ocean, as it sunk the pressure would have broken the structure, so why hasn't debris of some kind floated to the surface, if it has then it'll presumably was ashore or be discovered at some point.

ubersonic · 3 Mar 2015 at 16:28

Tefal said:
so was his copilot in on it or did he murder him first?

Most likely killed (it's never been heard of for both pilots to commit ariel suicide). According to the Air Crash Investigation episode on MH370 it would have been easy for the captain to order the first officer out of the cockpit for some reason (get him a coffee) then lock the door and disable the cabin pressure, knocking out and killing everyone in the cabin (cabin air masks only last 10 minutes whereas cockpit masks last hours).

The only three feasible explanations: pilot suicide or hijacking, and the chances of hijackers gaining access to and control of the cockpit without either pilot getting a message out (something they have a variety of ways to do subvertly) is next to none.