'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

redeye_uk said:
The Malaysian military are stating that the plane flew for over an hour after it disappeared from air traffic control, saying it changed course and traveled west over the Strait of Malacca.

If true, then it does make this a little weirder
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Suppose it could be an attempted hijacking and the Malaysian military shot it down as a 'threat'.

Can you imagine that political situation given that 70% of the passengers were Chinese?

I am sure Malaysia would be doing everything to make sure that plane is not found :)
 
drunkenmaster said:
What are the chances of a cover up where by intelligence services of some country found out some terrorists were going to be on board. To not alert other people in their organisation they were captured they fake a plane going missing. Have agents on board, take these guys during the flight, turn off transponder, fly under radar(is that remotely plausible, or would turning off transponder/comms allow them to fly to a secure airport without being tracked with the right routes and the right radar taken offline or something) or otherwise avoid tracking. Land somewhere, they keep everyone secure and on site. This would allow them to question some lets presume seriously important suspects without certain high up targets being aware they were possibly compromised, giving them time to get info and potentially capture targets before they decide to change locations because they think these guys are in custody?

The opposite take on the same story would be a hijacking, a great plan to land the plane without being tracked and get 200 hostages in an insanely difficult to rescue situation before claiming responsibility and making demands.
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This Malacca thing is most likely a panic story cooked up from the authorities in the aftermath of a failed [interplanetary] deal since the GCHQ methods were exposed. The result of which was a extra-terrestrial direct threat to human life which was followed up on. Since the threat was carried out and a plane was abducted carrying humans who are now test subjects, a new deal has been struck and the authorities can invent any story they like; any bodies 'discovered' now from the 'crash site' will be the result of cloning.
 
redeye_uk said:
The Malaysian military are stating that the plane flew for over an hour after it disappeared from air traffic control, saying it changed course and traveled west over the Strait of Malacca.

If true, then it does make this a little weirder
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There has been problems before when mechanical failures have caused many issues, like taking out hydraulics. Making it incredibly hard to fly, or the flight where the rudder jammed hard over. They've managed to keep it in the air for ages, before losing control totally. But this doesn't explain why it was suddenly lost on radar, nor does hijacking. Massive disintegration would, but then it couldn't fly.
 
Blazin23 said:
you freak
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:eek: Well now that's just mean!

BuffetSlayer said:
I kind of like how it feels and it keeps my head warmer than a woolen beanie!! :p
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We're all a little CT crazy at heart :)

BTW it keeps you warm bcos the govt (and aliens) are using it to heat up your brain cells (and read your mind, of course) bcos they're ACTUALLY behind the idea that using a TFH protects you from them :eek:
 
Lysander said:
This Malacca thing is most likely a panic story cooked up from the authorities in the aftermath of a failed [interplanetary] deal since the GCHQ methods were exposed. The result of which was a extra-terrestrial direct threat to human life which was followed up on. Since the threat was carried out and a plane was abducted carrying humans who are now test subjects, a new deal has been struck and the authorities can invent any story they like; any bodies 'discovered' now from the 'crash site' will be the result of cloning.
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Source?
 
Glaucus said:
There has been problems before when mechanical failures have caused many issues, like taking out hydraulics. Making it incredibly hard to fly, or the flight where the rudder jammed hard over. They've managed to keep it in the air for ages, before losing control totally. But this doesn't explain why it was suddenly lost on radar, nor does hijacking. Massive disintegration would, but then it couldn't fly.
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What about a suicidal pilot that decides to nose dive the plane into the sea?

I think there are so many possibilities with this story that we could chase our tails on the subject for days.

I hope this plane has been hijacked and landed somewhere, but I doubt it.

My guess is some kind catastrophic failure, but whether that includes terrorism, I really dont know. Given these guys boarded on false passports, could they also have boarded with liquid bombs?

I watched a a good documentary on some plot to blow up aircraft with liquid bombs put inside of Oasis juice bottles. The potential damage these things could have caused was said to have been severe.

It would also possibly explain the lack of pilot communication.

I just feel for all of those families left not knowing. It must be terrible and my thoughts are with them.

I am sure the truth will come out in due course.
 
BuffetSlayer said:
What about a suicidal pilot that decides to nose dive the plane into the sea?

rse.
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That doesn't fit. In fact I can't see how anything fits atm. Sudden loss from air traffic radar, suggest catastrophic failure. Otherwise surely they would see it defending.
But then apparently military radar sees it turning around and possibly flying fir another hour. But then why did it just vanish off the other radar.

Cockpit should be locked and they can also enter hijacking codes if under surest or someone tries to gain entry. But still doesn't explain the two different radar profiles.
 
TheBDog said:
:eek: Well now that's just mean!
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He went there, and he even did the post editing thing! :eek:



TheBDog said:
We're all a little CT crazy at heart :)

BTW it keeps you warm bcos the govt (and aliens) are using it to heat up your brain cells (and read your mind, of course) bcos they're ACTUALLY behind the idea that using a TFH protects you from them :eek:
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Dayum, thats some clever reverse bluff from the G-man.

I must immediatly burn my TFH. Oh no wait......Its made from extra thick oven proof foil!

The fail in my plans is strong :p
 
Glaucus said:
There has been problems before when mechanical failures have caused many issues, like taking out hydraulics. Making it incredibly hard to fly, or the flight where the rudder jammed hard over. They've managed to keep it in the air for ages, before losing control totally. But this doesn't explain why it was suddenly lost on radar, nor does hijacking. Massive disintegration would, but then it couldn't fly.
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To try and get it off radar you switch off the transponder and fly at low altitude.
 
Glaucus said:
That's not what appears to have happened, they were flying at cruising altitude, they should have seen the descent, then once it dipped below the coverage then it would disappear.
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Primary radar only provides heading and range. As soon as a transponder is off it becomes harder to get altitude info.
 
Lysander said:
A story will come out. Whether it is the truth or not is another matter.
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True. But then I believe the truth does always come out, eventually. It may take decades, but normally it comes to the surface.

Glaucus said:
That doesn't fit. In fact I can't see how anything fits atm. Sudden loss from air traffic radar, suggest catastrophic failure. Otherwise surely they would see it defending.
But then apparently military radar sees it turning around and possibly flying fir another hour. But then why did it just vanish off the other radar.

Cockpit should be locked and they can also enter hijacking codes if under surest or someone tries to gain entry. But still doesn't explain the two different radar profiles.
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I think it sounds ominous if the military had this plane on their radar. I mention this only because it has happened before I think.

I am sure there was a full passenger plane shot down by the russians in the 1980's. I know the world is a very different place now, but if there were difficulties on the plane preventing them communicating, the military could have assessed the plane as a threat and shot it down.

Pretty sure the Russians denied all knowledge of the incident back in the 80's, but then admitted to it.
 
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Glaucus said:
That's not what appears to have happened, they were flying at cruising altitude, they should have seen the descent, then once it dipped below the coverage then it would disappear.
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If the aircraft transponder had been switched off, no altitude information would be available from Radar.

Tuppy_Glossop said:
Primary radar only provides heading and range
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Track, not heading ;)
 
BuffetSlayer said:
He went there, and he even did the post editing thing! :eek:
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Is HE a G-Man??? :confused: :eek: :confused: :eek:

BuffetSlayer said:
I must immediatly burn my TFH. Oh no wait......Its made from extra thick oven proof foil!
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That's how they get you! It's almost as if you can't just throw it away...

Is it recycling? Isn't it? These are the questions we have to deal with!

I've heard that EVERYTHING IS FINE AND DANDY IN THE WORLD AND THERE ARE NO CONSPIRACIES AND YOU SHOULD ALWAYS WEAR YOUR TIN FOIL HAT BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU LOOK COOL
 
Scuzi said:
If the aircraft transponder had been switched off, no altitude information would be available from Radar.
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This makes far more sense now.
Although it would still show? And wouldn't disappear instantly? Unless they disabled transponder and the exact moment they went below the radar?
 
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Well we dont need another AF447 tbh, and given its looking like certain governments are hiding important information and the two dodgy passengers this could quite easily be a terrorist incident gone wrong or even right if the reports that the phones are still on!

wtf is going on......basically.
 
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