Soldato
The tubes would have to be pretty long to make use of the pre-drilled holes. I don't think there's much chance of it reaching that far - and like you said, it would have to be dismantled. Wishful thinking I think 
CoolIT Systems - 240mm ECO info
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Besides, while admittedly the pump probably shouldn't fail because you've upped the loop resistance, you've also introduced contaminants of varying description that could've contributed to pump failure. While good as a DIY project, you can get much better results building the loop yourself - while being able to replace any one part if it fails - than modding a custom-made 'sealed' unit.
Regardless of whether you can eke out a few more degrees performance by modding this dual-rad loop to use a different radiator, ultimately next-to-no-one is going to do that. People would buy this system to just use, because it has better performance than top-end air cooling. If they want even better performance, in the main they will build their own loop - I would hazard a guess it actually takes more expertise to mod the H50, or one of these, than it does to build a custom loop, so it's a nobrainer unless you're doing it for your own entertainment/bragging rights.
Miniyazz - home run. A custom 240mm rad setup would yield better results and offer the advantage of modularity but also comes with a considerably heavier price tag and the burden of learning how to assemble, test, install and of course the time required to so do. Swapping out any given component would be possible but then again requires an afternoon to drain, change and refill.
A sealed 240 would exist above any air cooler and a below a custom 240 loop in terms of performance but also in price. It would be considerable less hassle though to get that level of performance though which you have to consider what thats worth. I agree though that modding a sealed system is mainly for fun / bragging rights.
We advocate the use of custom loops, they are the originators of water cooling. While respecting that, we want to offer a product that can provide superior performance to air for those who don't want to spend the time and money getting involved in a custom loop.
You are also correct regarding the tubing length and mounting position. ECO 240 would almost always have to be mounted inside the chassis. I have begun compiling a list of chassis that support 240's and will post it here when I think its complete enough. If you were to mount it outside the case you'd have to cut some pretty big holes to get the block in and have tubing long enough to accomodate that while being short enough to not be too long for in chassis mounts. Not very likely... so lets look at internal mounts only.
For fan selection - we design our own fans which gives us the ability to tune the fan to the fit pitch so what you would end up getting is pretty optimized. We'll compare to some popular fans out there including the apache to make sure we are as good as we can be. Of course, if you dont like our fans you could always swap them out for your own but just know that lots of thought is put into the fan we use in the first place.
Mr. Paul - We have a 16 TEC liquid to liquid loop in the works too. It being design for use in industrial markets, manufacturing, high powered LED's and Lasers but if you want to really hurt a chips feeling with reliable uber sub ambient temps and didn't have a budget... that would be the way to go. Muahhaha.
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Soldato
Speaking of fans, I noticed that the stock fan proved just as good as the faster SWiF2 120P fan which I was quite surprised by. But given the way you designed it, I can see why the fan is so good.
Soldato
So how good would it be exactly? or no telling until there is one made?
are we only talking a few celcius over a custom loop or more?
are we only talking a few celcius over a custom loop or more?
Hey Guys - I've got benchies coming for you. Once were done testing it I'm going to send it out to a couple of you guys to review yourselves and then into OCUK.
Sound good? Who's in for the beta test?
Sound good? Who's in for the beta test?
Soldato
Oh sounds good, can compare to my rather hot H50
This is good news indeed. I've been waiting for a dual rad solution since my old asetek lclc days.
If performance is a enough of a leap from the single rad version I may even be tempted to replace my custom loop. Slightly higher temps but much less effort to work with.
I'll be keeping an eye on this...
If performance is a enough of a leap from the single rad version I may even be tempted to replace my custom loop. Slightly higher temps but much less effort to work with.
I'll be keeping an eye on this...
Soldato
Certainly sounds interesting and I'd be quite tempted to get one if I could figure out how to rig it in my Lian Li PC-A70B.
I haven't got the alternate roof with fan grills and the only place I can see to put it would be just behind the hdd cage as there's 2x120mm fans there, but I'm not sure the hoses would be long enough to facilitate this.
There's also the ability to mount it outside the case at the rear but due to the closed nature of the product I doubt this would work.
If you're shipping a few out I'd happily take one to have a play with and see if I can bodge it in my case.
Might even help squeeze a few more MHz out of my pretty rubbish C0 i7.
I haven't got the alternate roof with fan grills and the only place I can see to put it would be just behind the hdd cage as there's 2x120mm fans there, but I'm not sure the hoses would be long enough to facilitate this.
There's also the ability to mount it outside the case at the rear but due to the closed nature of the product I doubt this would work.
If you're shipping a few out I'd happily take one to have a play with and see if I can bodge it in my case.
Might even help squeeze a few more MHz out of my pretty rubbish C0 i7.
Barrolde...
Now that I am interested in! have a similar project going myself here, but would be interested to know what heat load you are looking to take sub-ambient and what power consumption you are looking at?
As for testing the 240mm... I have a rig in pieces at the moment with a case that has plenty of room.. and could even run some comparisons against a high-end custom set-up (Thermochill PA120.2, DDC-18w) if you wanted
Now that I am interested in! have a similar project going myself here, but would be interested to know what heat load you are looking to take sub-ambient and what power consumption you are looking at?
As for testing the 240mm... I have a rig in pieces at the moment with a case that has plenty of room.. and could even run some comparisons against a high-end custom set-up (Thermochill PA120.2, DDC-18w) if you wanted
Soldato
I think it should fit at the top back of my 1200? if so i would also be interested in testing one of these..
Yep - should fit in top or the back of a 1200. I'll get some peformance #'s up for you next week and then send out a couple samples to you guys.
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What kind of price do you expect the finished product to cost? I've been considering a H50-1/CoolIt for a while now but havent really seen any reviews that have convinced me to take the plunge yet. I currently use a Titan Fenrir so I'm not really convinced that these single rad coolers would be much of an improvement. A 240 one though could well be worth it so I would be very interested in this.
Of course, I'd certainly be willing to review one aswell if you have enough to go around
I'm using an Antec 1200 case aswell so it should fit in the back of that hopefully.
Thanks.
Of course, I'd certainly be willing to review one aswell if you have enough to go around
I'm using an Antec 1200 case aswell so it should fit in the back of that hopefully.
Thanks.
If you're willing to send some out I'd really appreciate the chance to test one. Pit it against my current water loop (ek supreme LT, DDC 18w and a PA120.3) for good solid numbers against reasonably high cooling
Current case is a coolermaster cm-690 so dual fan fittings in the roof.
out of interest is it possible to fit a rad to the roof of the cm 690?
Not properly no. If you can find some thin fans you can place those between the top of the case and the plastic cover with the rad inside - or the other way round if you cut some holes in the top for tubing.
With a little modding you can do quite a good job of it though. This:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18066974&highlight=username_Geckovich
Is how I used to have mine set up. I've sinced swapped the XSPC RS360 slim rad for a much larger PA120.3 which, unfortunately, has to just sit on the roof as it's too big to be dropped into the cut I made.
Obviously all the hardware has changed now too, it's the stuff in my sig. Currently only the CPU is under water but I'll be adding the GPU(s?
) next week sometime.
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Yes please!
With the recent release of cheap sealed units that actually work i have been very close to purchasing. What has stopped me is the fact that ultimately the heat shifted is determined by the radiator surface area and a single 120mm unit jsut isn't that much. I will stick with my enormous air cooler until something more capable than the current range of sealed water coolers becomes available. I will plasma cut a hole in the side of me case and fabricate a dedicated induction and exhaust for a 240mm or greater sealed water cooler. Ideally i would like it to keep a 4GHz C0 i7 at about 50 Celsius on load.
With the recent release of cheap sealed units that actually work i have been very close to purchasing. What has stopped me is the fact that ultimately the heat shifted is determined by the radiator surface area and a single 120mm unit jsut isn't that much. I will stick with my enormous air cooler until something more capable than the current range of sealed water coolers becomes available. I will plasma cut a hole in the side of me case and fabricate a dedicated induction and exhaust for a 240mm or greater sealed water cooler. Ideally i would like it to keep a 4GHz C0 i7 at about 50 Celsius on load.