Core 9000 series

Brun · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:15

SiDeards73 said:
You would have been better placed buying a 7900X or something to be honest.

From the reviews I've seen 7900X is slower in single-threaded tasks, not much faster (sometimes not at all) in multi-threaded ones, and practically double the price. In what way would it be better?

VincentHanna · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:16

They aren't running at 90°C in actual non-stress testing programs though, right?

Like games

chroniclard · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:16

My overclocked 2700X hovers around 55 degrees gaming, 65ish doing handbrake, water cooled.

However, if the higher temperatures are within spec on the 9900k, does it really matter? (does seem quite hot though)

B1gbeard · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:16

Gerard said:
Dg the intel shill trying to convince himself that 90c territory on a 360 AIO with a SOLDERED IHS is fine.

Meanwhile outside of planet dg....

It’s not though. OC3D for example were at 64ish stock and 80 on a OC with a AIO (280mm).

Gerard · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:17

B1gbeard said:
It’s not though. OC3D for example were at 64ish stock and 80 on a OC with a AIO (280mm).

Plenty of other sites had temps in the mid 90's, hardocp being one.

Poneros · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:18

9900k stock 103° C - 100% load in Aida64 w/ a Corsair H100i Pro. Toasty!

DragonQ · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:19

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So you need to delid a CPU with solder now?? Sorry,but Intel is much bigger than AMD,and they still can't engineer a thermal interface solution which needs no intervention by a third party to improve??

They seem to even unable to include a decent stock cooler with this,that AMD does, so its £500 to £600 plus an expensive cooler.

I honestly hope AMD does not release a 2800X,and join Intel in the ludicrous wars. It might actually do more damage than good methinks!

Well,I suppose being the best knows no boundaries,LOL!

Huh? Did you watch the video? Replacing the solder with high quality thermal paste resulted in significantly higher temperatures. Unless you want to go for liquid metal there is no reason to delid.

Gerard · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:21

Poneros said:
9900k stock 103° C - 100% load in Aida64 w/ a Corsair H100i Pro. Toasty!

103

You would think it would start to throttle around the mid 90's.

orbitalwalsh · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:22

Can't help but feel how this would have been on 10nm node .
2nd gen... 1st would have been 8th gen ...

Intel reminding me of Kodak .. how the once mighty can fall and fall hard .. apple would have been the same had they not pushed through with iPod and then Samsung heads doing a good job to shoot themselves in the foot . Thinks it's Intel's turn to do some soul searching ...

Have no doubt this will sell well... It will, I have no doubt this will make Ryzen sell well... More win for AMD the Intel would like as they are half the price but hopefully more cash into R&D... Specially AMD.. their PR budget is just useless haha

Still no VRM reviews and heat guns.. will see why z390 is beefed up... Needs it !

Poneros · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:22

Gerard said:
103 You would think it would start to throttle around the mid 90's.

Apparently the new limit for that is 115.

beany_bot · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:23

Don't expect Zen2 to be cheap is all I am saying. AMD have a clear dominance now.

beany_bot · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:24

Poneros said:
Apparently the new limit for that is 115.

So there is the potential now (all be it slim) to boil the water in your AIO and cause an explosion of boiling water seriously injuring you.
Lawsuit time.

8 Pack · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:24

Gerard said:
103 You would think it would start to throttle around the mid 90's.

Delid and lap the die for a good 16 or so C saving!!!!!!

SiDeards73 · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:25

8 Pack said:
Delid and lap the die for a good 16 or so C saving!!!!!!

You must be rubbing your hands with glee at the thought of £1200+ 9900k Lapped Delidded 5.3ghz+ CPU's hahaha

IT Troll · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:25

B1gbeard said:
It’s not though. OC3D for example were at 64ish stock and 80 on a OC with a AIO (280mm).

Deltas I believe.

Edit: Although I may be thinking of the GN review.

B1gbeard · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:26

Gerard said:
Plenty of other sites had temps in the mid 90's, hardocp being one.

They are pushing the silicon really beyond it’s limit though so what should we expect?

Gerard · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:31

B1gbeard said:
They are pushing the silicon really beyond it’s limit though so what should we expect?

Realistically they could have dialled the core clocks back and had an 8 core 16 thread cpu that wasn't a smouldering volcano to cool. But they went with the "moar mhz" approach and in turn got a cpu that can operate at the temp of boiling water.

SiDeards73 · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:31

Hardware Unboxed say its not good trying to run it on a Z370 mobo either? not surprised, i did say the VRMs would struggle.

Born_2_Kill_83 · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:32

So I have a 8pack binned delidded 8700k@ 5.1, this a worthy upgrade for me?

8 Pack · 19 Oct 2018 at 16:33

^^^ No dont change that!!!