This was the last rumour floating around. 7nm will be 5.0ghz. In fact I'm sure it was you that posted it.....
no, i didn't
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This was the last rumour floating around. 7nm will be 5.0ghz. In fact I'm sure it was you that posted it.....
You realise this point you keep bringing up is completely inane and stupid, right? There is no chance in hell that the i9-9900K will cost less than the R7 2700X; the R7 2700X doesn't need to hit 4.7 GHz to be competitive, that's kinda the point.Let us know what cooling the 2700x needs at 4.7ghz please......
Until that happens, keep quiet as you have nothing to compare it to.
My point exactly. So whilst it's easy to mock, there is nobody else doing it at the moment. Not even close.
You realise this point you keep bringing up is completely inane and stupid, right? There is no chance in hell that the i9-9900K will cost less than the R7 2700X; the R7 2700X doesn't need to hit 4.7 GHz to be competitive, that's kinda the point.
Focusing on a single metric with no context is meaningless, it's like saying the R7 2700X is better than the i7-8700K because it has more cores.
Right now Intel are doing exactly what AMD did in the Bulldozer days, factory overclocking the CPU higher and higher and higher to stay relevant on paper.
Intel cannot match AMD's price for performance so they are throwing clock speed and high power consumption at it, They still aint going to manage it, 6 months after the core 9000 series AMD will be landing 12 or 16 core CPU's at over 4Ghz with higher IPC for less than what Intel can go to on the 8 core.
Competition is great isn't it?
Is that not what the ryzen refresh is? Overclocked so high the power consumption goes out of the window. Isn't ryzen 2xxx the first of their CPUs to break their TDP rating?
The R7 2700X has a higher TDP, the others are all the same with higher clocks. Go look at the voltage/frequency charts that Gamers Nexus have comparing Ryzen 1 with Ryzen 2. There is a consistent improvement in efficiency.Is that not what the ryzen refresh is? Overclocked so high the power consumption goes out of the window. Isn't ryzen 2xxx the first of their CPUs to break their TDP rating?
No its not, my £150 65 Watt CPU is faster than the 95 Watt £220 8600K and the 2600 is faster still on the same TDP as its predecessor for £10 more.
I made this from a well known meme when Ryzen was just rumours, how true it looks now
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no, i didn't
Right now Intel are doing exactly what AMD did in the Bulldozer days, factory overclocking the CPU higher and higher and higher to stay relevant on paper.
The R7 2700X has a higher TDP, the others are all the same with higher clocks. Go look at the voltage/frequency charts that Gamers Nexus have comparing Ryzen 1 with Ryzen 2. There is a consistent improvement in efficiency.
I epect the 9900 to be decent and fast, but then it should be as its out 6 months after is competition (ok a year and a half if you could the 1700/1800), will use a lot more power and cost an arm and a leg.
It will be a short lived rein though.
no, i didn't
You posted this
As good as you saying it.
Whilst were talking about power consumption, look at this from techpowerup.
You can see both the 2600 and 8700k, both 6 core 12 thread CPU's. 2600 3.4/3.9 & 8700K 3.7/4.7..
Yet they consume the same amount of power, despite the ryzen running at a lower frequency and supposedly on a more power efficient node............
Why does the Coffeelake i3 on that chart use 40% more power than the Coffeelake i7?
It says at the top "lower is better" but it seems inverted from that with the most Effient CPU's higher and top down, look at it again, the 1300X is the least power Effient CPU? i think Wizard needs to redo that chart.
Anyway, back to your main point, i'm quoting what in the article i linked, that is a long way from saying what you claim. are we going to start holding ppl to account for other peoples views now just because it was quoted?
You must have thought it had some significance......
Anyway, here is another power consumption article https://us.hardware.info/reviews/82...he-most-interesting-ryzen-2-power-consumption
Again, same power draw with ryzen clocked lower and on a supposedly better node.........
The reason the techpowerup graph is like that is because
"In this section, we measure the total amount of energy consumed for a SuperPi run (single-threaded) and for Cinebench (multi-threaded). Since a faster processor will complete a given workload quicker, the total amount of energy used might end up lower than on a low-powered processor, which might draw less power, but takes longer to finish the test."
Oh, and dont even look at the power consumption on ryzen single threaded tests, its not great. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600/17.html
I wouldn't bother so much about TDP of 100W +-5% (2700X 105W and 1700X 95W).
But to expect 4.7-4.8GHz base, stock frequency on 95W 7nm chips, is completely realistic.
I'll add to that, i'll laugh my bum off if just after Intel launch this AMD slam down a 2800X 12 core 7nm pipe cleaner.