CRZ Supercharged * 2020 revival *

/fast forward time.

But in all seriousness, I'm still firmly in the "do it" crowd. It fits exactly what you're looking for, and you love the car to bits as it is anyway!

Want to SC the teg in a few years when I get something more sensible for a daily! That noise is just hnnnnnng!
 
I think in a year or so you will regret the SC, especially when you get used to the power and you have reached the limit.

Given all of Gibbo's points, a K20 CRZ makes even more sense! You will have a uniqueish, rareish, CRZ with 200hp on a standard engine, an engine which is easy to get to 260hp N/A or the sky is the limit with forced induction. Drive it around in 5th gear everywhere and you will get good mpg.

I don't mind saving £6k for petrol because one day we will be FORCED to own an electric car the way to government/green idiots are going. Make the most of high revving petrol engines before they are illegal!


The 200lb isn't just the batteries but also the electric motor I believe.
 
86JR said:
I think in a year or so you will regret the SC, especially when you get used to the power and you have reached the limit.

Given all of Gibbo's points, a K20 CRZ makes even more sense! You will have a uniqueish, rareish, CRZ with 200hp on a standard engine, an engine which is easy to get to 260hp N/A or the sky is the limit with forced induction. Drive it around in 5th gear everywhere and you will get good mpg.

I don't mind saving £6k for petrol because one day we will be FORCED to own an electric car the way to government/green idiots are going. Make the most of high revving petrol engines before they are illegal!


The 200lb isn't just the batteries but also the electric motor I believe.
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Not true thouh, the forged connecting rods and pistons installed is another £2K which then means the sky is the limit power wise (supporting mods aside fuel pump, injectors etc) and would still be cheaper than a K20 CRZ swap
 
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But has much more power negating the weight difference?

NathWraith said:
Not true thouh, the forged connecting rods and pistons installed is another £2K which then means the sky is the limit power wise (supporting mods aside fuel pump, injectors etc) and would still be cheaper than a K20 CRZ swap
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So you spend £2k more on internals to take more power and justify that against the cost of a K20 conversion, without actually increasing the power due to not being able to afford the supporting mods and a larger supercharger? So in effect you spend £2k more for 0 power increase vs the same cost as an instant 200hp n/a swap?

Plus if you are swapping a k20 in it makes sense to do manifold, RBC and other mods whilst the engine is out so you are looking at atleast 250hp the first time you start it!
 
86JR said:
Plus if you are swapping a k20 in it makes sense to do manifold, RBC and other mods whilst the engine is out so you are looking at atleast 250hp the first time you start it!
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If we're talking value for money..... it doesnt really make sense.

86JR said:
But has much more power negating the weight difference?
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Keeness of a car to turn in and adjustability on the throttle is not corrected by adding more power.
 
[TW]Fox;26399862 said:
Uniqueness serves no purpose and adds complication.

BHP obviously does serve a purpose.

Therefore bhp is clearly worth more than uniqueness.
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It really depends on your view point.

Take your F10 for example. I saw at least 3 on the M6 this morning. An F10 owner is not looking for uniqueness, so to them it will serve no purpose. I know they are great cars and as a result are common. Yet I would not enjoy owning one for that same reason.

I love the looks my car gets and the interest it generates. Just look at this thread for example.

It's this uniqueness that keeps me interested in my vehicle and my passion for cars.

My car is already unique, putting a supercharger on it will not change that perception for 99% of people as it is not something different you can physically see from the exterior of the car. But for me, it will mean it's looks can now match it's grunt.

I had a great moment yesterday on the way home, with a father(I presum) and son(again I presume, who looked around 8 or 9) when I was stuck in traffic. They were in a DB9, private plate etc and the son was looking an pointing at my car, to which I can only assume he was saying so0me along the lines "look dad/uncle/stepdad at that car!". That was pretty good knowing that someone can be in an Aston Martin and yet give the little CRZ that "head turning" attention.

A FN2 type R wouldn't manage that(which is the closest thing to an SC CRZ) and Im pretty sure a 5 Series wouldn't either.

Those moments happen to me around 2 or 3 times a week, they may not be all postive. Who knows but I enjoy it and it's what makes the ownership on this car so worth it, something you cannot simply quantify on paper.

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If we're talking value for money..... it doesnt really make sense.
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Exactly. A K20 swap and conversion in the US for a CRZ costs $17,000. And it is far more of a common place over there.

A Supercharged set up is around $7000.

The K20 swap has not been done in the UK to a CRZ and is filled with uncertainties.

And the end result is a car with an second hand engine (most likely) available in a 2003 Civic.

The point is that for £8K you can get a forged CRZ supercharged and delivery over 300BHP.

It would cost you far more than that just to get a K20 in there, never mind about getting more power out of it then.

Mainfolds are not a straight bolt on as the space in the CRZ bay is completely different to the Civics, so a lot of custom fabrication is required.

It's not so simple and it is a far cry from the simple plug and play OEM-ness of the Mugen SC kit.

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What supporting mods will you be doing Nath ? (brakes/suspension etc) ?
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I am going to upgrade the brakes to 300mm discs over stock 262mm along with braided lines, uprated pads etc.

The car already sits on Eibach springs and has AD08 tyres all round. A fast road alignment should see the car sharpen up some more.

Other than that, nothing much is required.
 
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Totally with you Nath, I love the uniqueness of cars and will put up with an awful lot to not have something I will see 63 of on my daily commute. I really like the F10 as a car but just couldn't bring myself to turn up to work and park it next to the other 4 of them owned by people in our buildings.

That said with the supercharging I can't believe it will keep you interested if your quest is more power and seems like you could end up wanting to swap it down the line once you get used to the performance. That said it'd be a really interesting and unique mod! ... do what you want to-do!
 
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Not sure i'd need >£5k for a K20 install but that's me doing the labour I guess.

Do Hondata do anything for the Crz yet in terms of ECU control with boost?
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Yep, thats the system the Mugen/HKS and Jackson use.

Case and pointtoday. Was just filling up at BP during lunch and the guy next to me asked what it was I was driving and said he'd never seen one before.

He was driving a mk1 focus of some sort.
 
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