Dawn of War 3?

MooMoo444 · 26 Apr 2017 at 14:15

Is it really MOBA? If so then what are they doing with the franchise.

DOW1 was classic RTS, perfect tbh
DOW2 was RPG, marmite gameplay but felt a bit too lacking most of the time

..now people say it's changing again?

Sargatanas2511 · 26 Apr 2017 at 14:36

It's not entirely a MOBA but it has taken some MOBA elements into the game style. The rest of the game seems ok though.

Shamikebab · 26 Apr 2017 at 14:38

in what way was DoW2 an rpg?

pingu666 · 26 Apr 2017 at 15:00

Shamikebab said:
in what way was DoW2 an rpg?

you could upgrade units, and choose between choasyness or not

reading through the horus herosy books atm, and the dow1 classic rts gameplay doesnt match the books, mostly they would deploy a lot of troops by drop pod or drop ship. then wreck stuff

MooMoo444 · 26 Apr 2017 at 15:28

Shamikebab said:
in what way was DoW2 an rpg?

ARPG to be precise. You killed guys, found loot, killed more guys, found more loot. It was a bit repetitive toward the end.

Vtec9k · 26 Apr 2017 at 19:06

MooMoo444 said:
Is it really MOBA? If so then what are they doing with the franchise.

DOW1 was classic RTS, perfect tbh
DOW2 was RPG, marmite gameplay but felt a bit too lacking most of the time

..now people say it's changing again?

It's really nothing like a MOBA.

Dis86 · 27 Apr 2017 at 08:13

pingu666 said:
reading through the horus herosy books atm, and the dow1 classic rts gameplay doesnt match the books, mostly they would deploy a lot of troops by drop pod or drop ship. then wreck stuff

The trouble is no game, tabletop or otherwise matches the fluff. A bog standard marine would basically be enough to wipe out an ordinary guard army for example. They can barefisted punch through a tank!
Not to mention that their guns are essentially rpg launchers.
Oh and they can run at 60 mph...

Sargatanas2511 · 27 Apr 2017 at 09:22

Dis86 said:
The trouble is no game, tabletop or otherwise matches the fluff. A bog standard marine would basically be enough to wipe out an ordinary guard army for example. They can barefisted punch through a tank!
Not to mention that their guns are essentially rpg launchers.
Oh and they can run at 60 mph...

Balance is important though, I mean in DoW1 the Necrons should have literally wiped the floor with everyone but I appreciate balance is important so I let it slide because it was awesome fun!

elmuzzy66. · 27 Apr 2017 at 11:50

pingu666 said:
you could upgrade units, and choose between choasyness or not

reading through the horus herosy books atm, and the dow1 classic rts gameplay doesnt match the books, mostly they would deploy a lot of troops by drop pod or drop ship. then wreck stuff

It does actually match as the formation of space marine chapters changed after the Civil War. DOW is set in the 40k era which means a cap at 1000 for the entire chapter.

Shamikebab · 27 Apr 2017 at 12:05

Dis86 said:
The trouble is no game, tabletop or otherwise matches the fluff. A bog standard marine would basically be enough to wipe out an ordinary guard army for example. They can barefisted punch through a tank!
Not to mention that their guns are essentially rpg launchers.
Oh and they can run at 60 mph...

Yeah but the Imperial Guard outnumber the Space Marines by a ridiculous factor.

Dis86 · 27 Apr 2017 at 12:15

Shamikebab said:
Yeah but the Imperial Guard outnumber the Space Marines by a ridiculous factor.

They do. But in any of the games - they don't. They're also meant to have the best equipment etc. yet IG tanks are way better! Just look at the Chimera compared to the bloody Rhino.

Sargatanas2511 · 27 Apr 2017 at 12:17

Dis86 said:
They do. But in any of the games - they don't. They're also meant to have the best equipment etc. yet IG tanks are way better! Just look at the Chimera compared to the bloody Rhino.

If they tried to do an RTS game that way, it would either make the Space Marine/Necron army so small it's not fun to play, or the IG/Ork/Tyranid army so big it just isn't feasible to use so I understand and accept that it's just what they have to do.

Glanza · 27 Apr 2017 at 12:19

Shame it appears to be more of a moba feel than the original rts. Been looking forward to this for a while as I'm short of games to play and looks like i'll be waiting for bargain bin pricing

Calgar117 · 27 Apr 2017 at 12:23

I am pretty disappointed with DOW3, i remember DOW1 with such amazing nostalgia, and i love the apocalypse mod for it

DOW3 does feel very moba, even if the mechanics are not exact replica of MOBA, the art style etc seems to reinforce that perception, which i feel isn't very adaptable to a 40k scene etc

Personally i will be sticking with warhammer Total war as i feel this seems to be going in the right direction for warhammer franchise

Also what is with the unit customization of tactical marines? it shouldn't be a choice between 5 dudes with las cannons in a squad than another with heavy bolters etc?

even the simplest things are not correct

pingu666 · 27 Apr 2017 at 14:37

elmuzzy66. said:
It does actually match as the formation of space marine chapters changed after the Civil War. DOW is set in the 40k era which means a cap at 1000 for the entire chapter.

Ah didn't know that, thought it was just the ultramarines down to 1kish

eekfek · 27 Apr 2017 at 15:20

Unpacking

Souness · 27 Apr 2017 at 16:59

DoW 3 is a prime example of why esports is the worst thing to happen to gaming.

esoteric · 27 Apr 2017 at 17:58

Still waiting for my key :/

eekfek · 27 Apr 2017 at 19:59

Well steam reviews are looking bad, main complaint is that the game is totally multiplayer focussed and the initial campaign missions are dull. Think I'll keep it under 2 hours in case a refund is on the cards!

dave1180 · 27 Apr 2017 at 21:24

whats a MOBA?