Declining attitude to law and order
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That about sums you up
Agreed. You post facts and figures, he has nothing to refute them so now calls you thick. Excellent effort by him.
Facts and figures from Fox News? I'd rather trust a blind man to lead me to water than a man who covers his eyes in mud.
Either way, I still don't understand the fascination with the US in this thread. I mean the title is general, but I still imagine that it's rather irrelevant to the UK and attempting to make it relevant is surely counter-productive.
I suppose it's a good distraction from actual issues, which is probably the point.
Either way, I still don't understand the fascination with the US in this thread. I mean the title is general, but I still imagine that it's rather irrelevant to the UK and attempting to make it relevant is surely counter-productive.
I suppose it's a good distraction from actual issues, which is probably the point.
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Well yes, the OP posted about London being "out of control", so it seems to have evolved somewhat.
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A bold claim that wont be backed up by any statistics.
Your posts are so often really rather pathetic, lacking in substance and so easy to rebut.
Black's are arrested at a disproportionate rate for violent offences in the US because witnesses report them commiting violent crime at a disproportionate rate....
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv17.pdf
The massive undrepresentation of Asians as reported suspects for violent offences as a percentage of their population is notable.
I forgot to add that beyond pathetic your posts also often display a comical lack of self reflection.
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What aspect was heavy-handed? He was in possession of a significant quantity of it which needs to be dealt with appropriately. There's also the obvious safeguarding requirement given his age and vulnerability to exploitation.
While you're waiting for an answer from Caracus2K.
I will ask you the same thing.
Its not hard....
It's for the same reasons that whites get arrested for violent offences much more often on a per capita basis than Asians in the US.
The simple demonstrable fact is that one of the most important factors in determining how well someone will do in life in a country like the UK or US is their own attitude towards study, work and family.
An awful lot of this is derived from the 'cultural norms' that a person adopts from their family and thoose around them.
Its clear that some subcultures are inferior to others when it comes to achieving academic, economic, occupational sucess and avoiding falling foul of the law.
It's not 'racist' if you personally act in a way that is less conducive to your own ultimate success than others even if this is largely a product of the upbringing you received from your family/guardians and whatever community your parent(s) / guardians/ peers etc were associated with.
Just a few weeks ago a section of the supposedly prestigious Smithsonian (The National Museum of African American History and Culture)
put out a chart online in their "talking about race" portal which included a section titled “Aspects and Assumptions of Whiteness in the United States” which included the culture traits, “hard work is the key to success” and “objective, rational linear thinking,”
If you think not following "whiteness" means being lazy, prejudiced and irrational then you deserve to fail in life and its not racist that you follow such an inferior ideology.
This demonstrably can't be accused of being a "white supremacy" position either as it is clear that many "white" sub cultures are inferior to other "non white" ones, even in majority "white" countries when it comes to things like average academic, economic and occupational sucess and avoiding things like incarceration.
Stats also form a bit of a problem when looking at repeat offenders. The below is obviously in no way representative of the truth, I'm just using it to illustrate how numbers can be misleading.
Population:
900 white people
100 black people
100 crimes committed.
60 crimes committed by 60 different white people.
40 crimes committed by 8 different black people.
Ignoring unique criminals, you can say black people make up 10% of the population, but commit 40% of the crime, their crime
opulation ratio is 4:1.
The same metric for white people (60% of the crime, 90% of the population) gives a crimeopulation ratio of 2:3, or 0.67:1
Oh noes, black people are 6 times more likely to commit crimes than white people (4 / 0.67 = 6)
However, only 8% of the black population actually committed any crimes, whereas 6.7% of white people committed crimes.
So from a unique person perspective, black people are only 20% more likely to commit crimes than white people ( 8 / 6.7 = 1.2), a far cry from the 600% we saw in the previous calculation.
Population:
900 white people
100 black people
100 crimes committed.
60 crimes committed by 60 different white people.
40 crimes committed by 8 different black people.
Ignoring unique criminals, you can say black people make up 10% of the population, but commit 40% of the crime, their crime
opulation ratio is 4:1.The same metric for white people (60% of the crime, 90% of the population) gives a crime
opulation ratio of 2:3, or 0.67:1Oh noes, black people are 6 times more likely to commit crimes than white people (4 / 0.67 = 6)
However, only 8% of the black population actually committed any crimes, whereas 6.7% of white people committed crimes.
So from a unique person perspective, black people are only 20% more likely to commit crimes than white people ( 8 / 6.7 = 1.2), a far cry from the 600% we saw in the previous calculation.
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"Nothing to refute them" - Do you realise it's not me making anyone look stupid?
Here's my post containing "nothing to refute them":-
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Lol. I say "have another try" and so you post new evidence to "have another try" and yet I'm apparently the one that's wrong and lacking self-reflection.
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Lol. I say "have another try" and so you post new evidence to "have another try" and yet I'm apparently the one that's wrong and lacking self-reflection.
I posted evidence to show that the variance in police deaths between different racial demographics is likely heavily influenced by the vastly different rates they are arrested for violent offences, on a per capita basis.
You then decided to imply that the variance in arrests for violent offences was itself down to racism on behalf of the police.
So I had to play whack a mole with this silly suggestion by showing that police arrest rates for violent offences are quite consistent with the ethnic descriptions given for suspect by members of the public.
Which suggests that racism isn't a particularly relevant factor when determining the ratios of arrests, per capita, for violent offences between different racial groups.
It would nice if you even bothered to try and substantiate the claims and insinuations you frequently make.
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And you still haven't shown video evidence...
Carmen Best, Seattle’s top cop, emails resignation notice to officers.
That's not good at all.
Because of the blm riot Downtown Chicago is under lockdown.
blm rioters caused $60m worth of damage.
I'd just shoot them.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-...g-downtown-mag-mile-shooting-lightfoot-police
blm rioters caused $60m worth of damage.
I'd just shoot them.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-...g-downtown-mag-mile-shooting-lightfoot-police
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...And we're back to:-
...Most of the links have videos embedded - but that's to put to one side why you feel a Youtube video is better than the multiple articles and lists I provided.
You took offence at my line about education - you can clear all that up by telling us which university course taught you Youtube was a better source than reputable media outlets.
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