Dell 24 incher (NO RULE BREAKING)

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Ive seen some screenshots of this display in the dark with black Desktop.

Non leakage looks good from the shot I seen perhaps slight blooming of blusih/black in the corners but much better than many other panels.

Some owners are mentioning a washed out look. Possible because they havnt properly calibrated, this is a very bright display after all.

Look forward to OcUk first review, whos it gonna be?
 
Mr Latte, I was the one who called you a grump; please forgive me m8ty :)
What I do object to is swearing, and I feel that it should be removed from these forums(moderators take note).

So lets get back on subject.

Tell me if these monitors can scale down a tad without to much picture quality loss and still keep the wide screen format.

CHeers
 
BTW Mr Latte, are you thinking of getting one in the future?
I am just waitting for the reviews and then the price drops myself...I really do like the monitors size (same as height as my 2001FP but with the extra 4" in the width).
 
Yeh I've been following the washed out comments on another website. The comments come with respect to the 2005FPW screen the user also owns: he thinks the colours on it are possible more vibrant and that reds stick out more. He's been doing some fiddling on the 2405FPW though and sounds like he's closer to sorting it. Also, he sounds like someone who doesn't like a bright display anyway.

Another user on another forum has been nothing but positive about this display, and he has just upgraded from a 2005FPW. To quote him:

" I was using the 2005FPW for 3 months with 1680x1050 4xAA 16xAF as my default for HL2 and CS:S. I was very very (note the two very's) satisfied. I am currently in HEAVEN THANKING EVERY KNOWN DEITY FOR THE BLESSING I HAVE RECEIVED playing it on the 2405FPW at 1920x1200 0xAA 8xAF. Can't really put it much clearer than that."

Which sounds good :)

On another website, this came from another satisfied owner:

"Ok, I got home and have been trying out different Gamecube games on it, and also Gran Turismo. For the GC I have it through component and with Progressive Scan turned on when possible, and for the PS2 its through S-Video (gonna get the component cables soon).

All I can say is wow. The GC games look amazing, I mean drop dead gorgeous. Metroid Prime is stunning, as is Wind Waker. The colors are so vibrant and eye popping it looks superb. I also tried RE4, which looked great, but I didn't see as much of an improvement as I did with the other GC games. Everything looks very nice.

GT4 looks very good, I can't wait to see it in progressive scan through component cables.

Oh, as far as tweaks for the image I changed the sharpness to 1 (the default of 3 or anything higher than that looks very jagged and makes the games look like they really need AA, which they do, but this just makes it very apparent). With the 1 setting it looks much smoother and better (although certain games like RE4 still show a fair amount of jaggies). I also bumped the color saturation to 75 versus the default 50. This is a huge improvement and makes a game like Wind Waker or Mario Kart look a lot better. The colors are much more vibrant and appealing (its pretty similar in effect to nVidia's Digital Vibrance Control if you know what thats like). The only other thing is I changed it to fill the screen instead of keep aspect ratio.

So far even the S-Video looks considerably better than it did on the 2005. I'm actually quite stunned at how much better the Gamecube games look (I only had them going in through S-Video on the 2005, so thats at least part of the reason). Next up is the Xbox through component. I'll hopefully have the PS2 component cables soon as now that I see what a difference it can make I am gonna have a hard time dealing with playing GT4 without them.

Still haven't played PC games on it, gonna probably go do that now. Here's the games I'll test: HL2, Doom3, Far Cry, UT2K4, WoW, and maybe some others that I forget. It'll probably be a little while before I test some of them as I need to go and redownload HL2 before I can play it."


Unfortunately, he's in the US, and I've heard somewhere that there may be a problem running PAL through component (i.e. a region 2 dvd). This is a big issue for me, as I'd like to use this screen with my consoles (currently set to US progressive scan/ HDTV of 480P/720P/1080i so not a prob) and most likely the next gen (could use PAL HDTV of 580P and upwards so could be a prob) as well as my R2 DVD Player (PAL progressive scan so could be a prob). Has anybody/can anybody try a region 2 dvd through the component connects??
 
One word about upgrading from the 2001FP to this, the dot pitch on this is higher, so images will be stretched more (0.255->0.27). This means that running something natively in 1600x1200 4:3 (1:1) mode on the 2405FPW might not appear quite as detailed. Having said that, the image will be larger, and thus standard fonts won't appear as small as on the 2001.
 
Hi guys,

Have to say Im tempted indeed but Id want two units not one as a single monitor now feels very weird to me, heck even I need to draw a line somewhere and me just cant afford 2. I dont particulary like the looks of the monitor or cheap build but I would love 2 matching units ideally they would look like the 193p styling and lose all the bulk as long as they kept the video inputs.

I said it long ago that 24" was going to be massive this year but Im surprised with the very cheap pricing so soon. Many other models will be arriving before summer this you can gurantee.Think Ill hold out but damn after over 2 years of testing many vga adapters s video inputs for good console quality playback on a pc monitor along comes this making it a dream nailing the whole interlaced and component problem on the head. Not forgetting the great PIP modes really the only thing missing is a remote. Its all this that appeals to me as much as the very high resolution and panel specs.

I hope some dons will perhaps reconsider some recent bannings or how they are implemented. "Kev UK" will be missed and although i think he too talked about something of a grey line situation he was a very positive poster helping many within these forums. Personally i think the rules need updated and a 1 week ban would have been enough to teach many offenders a lesson afterall forums without good regulars are not good forums but its their decision and rules.

Nice updates on the console connectivity guys, slap dont worry abit about it mate.
 
Yaka said:
btw can the pal version of gt4 be played at 1080i? or only the yank/japanese versions?

Not a chance it doesnt even have 60Hz 480p
USA version and a USA PS2 best way to enjoy it mate.

So L0ony lived up to his name then and went a bit mental. Damn no point taking it out on you mods, just doing your jobs.
 
I said this earlier in the thread I think but the one thing this display doesn't have which I'm a little concerned about is the lack of HDCP on the DVI input. So when HDTV is out over here i'm going to have to change my monitor again.
 
As for the HDCP issue this for me i hope will be the ideal stop gap. atm plasma screens prices are falling sharply, 2 projectors and a host of lcd tvs i demoed in my price range i was not happy with. and as for lcd tvs there most of em need time spent on tweaking the hdcp hdmi/dvi ports enable to work with a htpc.
 
I just wish there was more news about the Samsung version of this one as I'd love to see what price point it arrives at and how it looks before just buying what is available now.

I've got an X850XL PE and an AMD 4000+ arriving next week, just need the screen to do it justice :)
 
Yaka, my username is JonDo[H] over on that forum. I'm the one that keeps pimping the colourful plane photo and getting owners to go into detail over their colour worries! :)

I'm still hovering over that buy button. I would have bought it in an instant, but I'm REALLY worried about whether, excluding the size factor (PHWOAAR! :D), games are going to look worse than on my current 2005 by suffering from washed-out colours :p
 
I believe 480p and the 1080i mode both @ 60Hz are not on the UK version with borders and 50Hz.

GT4 will be one of the games Ill be showcasing a lot in an upcomming thread.
Yet to properely test/compare on the AE700 480p Vs 1080i but overall it looks a little less jagged.

Guys this thread needing a few pics dot you think?
 
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