Description of Afterlife?

I believe that there is something, but I don't know what. And I don't subscribe to any particular religion. Agnostic?

Anyway, while my belief in 'something' is probably just an emotional crutch to help me cope, what I definitely don't believe in is the Bible, Koran, etc. Even if they contain elements of truth, they've been so corrupted that I find it difficult to take seriously. They all seem like differing paths to the same place tbh, so why all the blood letting?

Any more than 3 women in the same room as me and I'm looking for an escape route. The prospect of 72 of them following me around for all eternity really doesn't strike me as heavenly at all.
 
Sleeve88 said:
So how exactly can you provide evidence on a matter such as this? Its impossible. As there is neither proof for or against it.
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There is neither proof for or against any number of ludicrous things you care to dream up. How has this equal lack of proof between them caused you to believe so strongly in one over the infinite amount of others?
 
Spit said:
Well said mrk.
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Admittedly though this is fast changing as Science tinkers with the brain and these days we are learning that lab tests are going on with technology that can display vague images of what people are thinking.

It will come to the point where you can back up your brain just as we do today with our computers. Like it was mentioned in another thread, Sci-Fi is no longer just for television.
 
Spektor said:
There is neither proof for or against any number of ludicrous things you care to dream up. How has this equal lack of proof between them caused you to believe so strongly in one over the infinite amount of others?
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As I have stated earlier in the thread it is simply my belief. Why does it need justification? I'm confused as to why it's become such a big issue :confused:
 
Sleeve88 said:
As I have stated earlier in the thread it is simply my belief. Why does it need justification? I'm confused as to why it's become such a big issue :confused:
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Come on now, a couple of basic questions hardly makes it a big issue. Nobody is demanding you believe something else, they're merely sating their own curiosity.
 
mrk said:
Consciousness is unique to you, your body and your genetic makeup, the neurons in your brain and everything else, it all makes you who you are. That consciousness will not transfer to something or someone else when you die. Those neurons rot away and that’s it.
The atoms that make us up fade into the Universe just as they emerged and somewhere else on the planet new life is born with new neurons and new genetics, a new person, not the remnants of someone else.

Logically, that’s the only way it can be and you don’t need to be agnostic, atheist or religious to see that.
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+1.

While it may not be absolute proof, one only has to look at loss of consciousness and / or memories in people with brain damage to understand how dependent our consciousness is to a healthy, working and living brain.

To believe that a persons individual consciousness will somehow miraculously survive after they have died is illogical.
 
mrk said:
Consciousness is unique to you, your body and your genetic makeup, the neurons in your brain and everything else, it all makes you who you are. That consciousness will not transfer to something or someone else when you die. Those neurons rot away and that’s it.
The atoms that make us up fade into the Universe just as they emerged and somewhere else on the planet new life is born with new neurons and new genetics, a new person, not the remnants of someone else.

Logically, that’s the only way it can be and you don’t need to be agnostic, atheist or religious to see that.
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What if the brain is more akin to a receiver/temporary storage for your consciousness?. Think of a TV, just because the TV breaks doesn't mean the content you watched on it has been destroyed, you simply buy another TV.

We simply do not know enough about consciousness or the universe to logically make any definitive conclusions on what conscious is or even if it is a product of, or extant independently of the corporeal body.
 
The content on the TV hasnt been destroyed because its a recording stored elsewhere on tape / DVD / HDD or whatever.

If you were to delete and destroy every copy of a particular TV show, the content will be gone forever.

The consciousness of the human brain is not recorded or stored anywhere other than within each individuals brain. Once the brain is 'deleted', the 'data' stored within it is gone forever.
 
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bhavv said:
The content on the TV hasnt been destroyed because its a recording stored elsewhere on tape / DVD / HDD or whatever.

If you were to delete and destroy every copy of a particular TV show, the content will be gone forever.
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And if the Universe is ultimately the storage facility? The object of the analogy is not to convince you of anything, just to make you consider an alternative proposition that you may not of though of.

As I said, logically we simply do not know or understand enough about the human Brain or the Universe to answer the question without making some fairly large assumptions.
 
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Castiel said:
What if the brain is more akin to a receiver/temporary storage for your consciousness?. Think of a TV, just because the TV breaks doesn't mean the content you watched on it has been destroyed, you simply buy another TV.

We simply do not know enough about consciousness or the universe to logically make any definitive conclusions on what conscious is or even if it is a product of, or extant independently of the corporeal body.
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That explains nothing what so ever. You're left with the exact same questions being asked only you've now made the Human Brain a proxy. Seems a rather pointless and more importantly, baseless level of complexity to add.
 
Castiel said:
And if the Universe is ultimately the storage facility? The object of the analogy is not to convince you of anything, just to make you consider an alternative proposition that you may not of considered.
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Your propositions are completely illogical / irrational. You are way out of your depth and comfort zone on this topic.
 
Spektor said:
That explains nothing what so ever. You're left with the exact same questions being asked only you've now made the Human Brain a proxy. Seems a rather pointless and more importantly, baseless level of complexity to add.
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Like I said its not about explaining something, it is about considering the hypothesis of something. Also it is not entirely baseless if you read Carl Jung or look at it as another form of some unconscious collective.
 
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bhavv said:
Your propositions are completely illogical / irrational. You are way out of your depth and comfort zone on this topic.
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Of course I am Bhavv :rolleyes:. You can either discuss things in a civil and adult manner or you can do you usual nonsense, in which case I will simply ignore you.
 
bhavv said:
When you die maybe your consciousness is transported / stored inside a pile of cow dung.

This makes as much sense as your posts.
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Maybe it is, but then you have to ask yourself why?

In all probability eventually part of what used to be you may certainly end up in a pile of cow dung, whether that part is what used to be your consciousness is another matter.

Maybe you can explain exactly what defines consciousness and exactly how it is formed and operates on a fundamental level...maybe you have information that the rest of humanity lack Bhavv?

If you don't then your ideas are just as much a pile of cow dung as mine, the only difference is that you actually believe yours whereas I am merely conducting a thought exercise.
 
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