*** Destiny Raid & PvP discussion thread ***

The Weekly heroic strike this week, man the final room is hard !!!
2 30's and a 29 struggled, had to keep one back at all times, Arc damage is a bitch lol

Just need the new headpiece then all my armour is light lvl 33, so more strikes tonight :)

Don't know what it is with the raid lately, all i seem to get is shards, shards and more shards !! Oh and Praedyths Revenge :)
 
Did they do anything to VOG for the update, just wondering if its actually worth running it now other than for shards?
 
Jano said:
Did they do anything to VOG for the update, just wondering if its actually worth running it now other than for shards?
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Did a VoG run last night and didn't notice anything unusual from pre-DLC. Got some boots for my Warlock along with the usual Shards/Chatterwhite.
 
Don't forget that the VoG still could give you an exotic and I guess it would have to be the new higher damage ones.

I'll still be looking to do some VoG this week - like to do it 3 times back-to-back - wouldn't take long at all too...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
We did the other week with Wyrdo who I think was only 24/25 and got through fine. The only time it becomes a possible problem is if you're teleported but as long as everyone else upgraded weapons or oracle disrupter weapons you can get through that too.

Edit: Everyone else was 29/30 which I think the over levelling is needed to help carry and under levelled player.
 
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ps3ud0 said:
There's a min cap for the raid as normal - under level 27 and it just won't let you start it

Not to spoil it but we think we are at the final boss - but it feels like beating him will need us to be level 31. Everything else up until that point feels 'easy' compared...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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I was reading you need at least one level 31 as they will do 50 percent more damage to crota. I'm looking forward to having a run through now I'm almost 31. Hopefully I'll get some raid armour!
 
ps3ud0 said:
Don't forget that the VoG still could give you an exotic and I guess it would have to be the new higher damage ones.

I'll still be looking to do some VoG this week - like to do it 3 times back-to-back - wouldn't take long at all too...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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From what I read on Neogaf they are still the old drops :o
 
Fr0dders said:
We made it to crota

Race you to the end :D
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So it would appear that our Xbox party has managed to stumble upon the ideal strategy for crota. Don't click the spoiler unless you want to read a strategy for the final boss in the Crota raid.

Reading this strateg on reddit, its pretty much word for word what we were doing last night.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2oxk54/crotas_end_phase_4_final_boss_guide/

The interesting part is the Ogres aren't timed, or caused by moving back further into the cave, but linked to the waves. The 3rd sword bearer will not spawn until you have taken out the two ogres. Once they die they won't come back again until its time for the 6th sword.

The "two times" trick I was reading about but didn't fully understand until now is to utilize the full 45 seconds the sword is active for. DPS Crota, get his shield to half health, get the sword from the dead sword bearer such he dies when crotas shield is still up and you pick the sword up, run toward crota and the shield drops just as you get there. Get two good hits in, then drop back down. DPS him again for the shield to get him again and get one or two good hits in just as the sword runs out, hitting him multiple times in two "sessions" during the 45 seconds the sword is active for.
 
maxilive said:
From what I read on Neogaf they are still the old drops :o
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VoG normal is still dropping 300 attack, we did it Tuesday night, a universal remote and few legendaries dropped, all 300.

I thought the RNG was smiling on me when a blue engram turned into a new legendary 330 attack launcher.....then realised it was a void version :mad:
 
Fr0dders said:
So it would appear that our Xbox party has managed to stumble upon the ideal strategy for crota. Don't click the spoiler unless you want to read a strategy for the final boss in the Crota raid.

Reading this strateg on reddit, its pretty much word for word what we were doing last night.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2oxk54/crotas_end_phase_4_final_boss_guide/

The interesting part is the Ogres aren't timed, or caused by moving back further into the cave, but linked to the waves. The 3rd sword bearer will not spawn until you have taken out the two ogres. Once they die they won't come back again until its time for the 6th sword.

The "two times" trick I was reading about but didn't fully understand until now is to utilize the full 45 seconds the sword is active for. DPS Crota, get his shield to half health, get the sword from the dead sword bearer such he dies when crotas shield is still up and you pick the sword up, run toward crota and the shield drops just as you get there. Get two good hits in, then drop back down. DPS him again for the shield to get him again and get one or two good hits in just as the sword runs out, hitting him multiple times in two "sessions" during the 45 seconds the sword is active for.
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We were trying something similar but with his full shield down - just getting the timing of doing that and getting the sword holder to him to do max damage is still WIP. Definitely feels like the sword holder has to be level 32 to get the damage per run high enough to complete before enrage.

I get the feeling with this raid and its components perfection is key as without it the mechanisms are setup to an unavoidable wipe far moreso than VoG
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From what I read on Neogaf they are still the old drops :o
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Really? Damn :(. Any ideas if that's for both normal and hard VoGs?

Bungie going haphazard with how they are trying to lock out non-DLC owners out of the stuff us DLC owners don't think is that important...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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I hope that since they jacked up the difficulty on VoG hard that they upped the drops to at least 330 exotics, although I guess the raid armour will still be 30 light.
 
It would make sense if the upped the armour in VoG to 33 light too. Only people who have DLC need to get to level 31 or 32 for CE so while there is no 'use' for non DLC to get that high there isn't really an argument against why they couldn't also. If you could get the higher armour from VoG, even if only hard more, would keep VoG in circulation for people who bought DLC. As at the moment the only people who want to run VoG are people like me who are after ascendant materials.
 
Fr0dders said:
So it would appear that our Xbox party has managed to stumble upon the ideal strategy for crota. Don't click the spoiler unless you want to read a strategy for the final boss in the Crota raid.

Reading this strateg on reddit, its pretty much word for word what we were doing last night.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2oxk54/crotas_end_phase_4_final_boss_guide/

The interesting part is the Ogres aren't timed, or caused by moving back further into the cave, but linked to the waves. The 3rd sword bearer will not spawn until you have taken out the two ogres. Once they die they won't come back again until its time for the 6th sword.

The "two times" trick I was reading about but didn't fully understand until now is to utilize the full 45 seconds the sword is active for. DPS Crota, get his shield to half health, get the sword from the dead sword bearer such he dies when crotas shield is still up and you pick the sword up, run toward crota and the shield drops just as you get there. Get two good hits in, then drop back down. DPS him again for the shield to get him again and get one or two good hits in just as the sword runs out, hitting him multiple times in two "sessions" during the 45 seconds the sword is active for.
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I watched another strategy this morning where...

The entire team stayed on the upper walk way where you start and kept to the left hand side, took out the Knights (the ones on the right don't bother shooting as you're out of range), then did the sword bearer business, the person holding the sword just did right button attack. I think that might be better as when you do the right trigger smash attack there is sometime before you fully regain control so you can move away faster with just doing the slash attacks. They also took Crota's shield down a second time like you mention to get more damage on him.

Some other things:

Level 31 is I think is ideally needed for the person on sword duty.

Weapons of light to get more damage in crota's shield when taking him down.

The thralls down the bottom don't seem to bother you that much, but some do come up behind you, included cursed ones so keep an eye on that motion tracker!

I think one person should call out the status of his shield to avoid people shouting different things to the sword guy.

While gjallanbaghorn does good damage to his shield I can't help but think ice breaker will be better as you'll always have ammo available.

Also, sorry I was crap with the sword! I think my reaction times are too slow and I'm crap at jumping under pressure haha :D
 
sieze2 said:
I have to agree with Zoomee and say no chance. Apparently you have quit raids and strikes without warning lots of times before. When we are playing as a team that is not cool. We waited, and waited for you to rejoin on Tuesday. The embarrassing thing is it was me saying just give him a few more minutes. I for one won't be playing with you again, sorry.
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Wtf???

My Internet cut out and I was kicked off the game. I was also kicked from destiny.

I didn't quit and have never quit before.

Could you back any of this up?
 
ps3ud0 said:
Really? Damn :(. Any ideas if that's for both normal and hard VoGs?

Bungie going haphazard with how they are trying to lock out non-DLC owners out of the stuff us DLC owners don't think is that important...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Not sure about hard but I'm guessing so. It all seems a bit messy :p

There is a few ways it could be done easily they should have just made the current exotics have 1 extra damage tree if you have the "episode 1" flagged on your account. But I think this is more of a way to slow down the loot gaining process especially for people who are highly invested in the game with multiple characters etc. It would only take 2 weeks max to get most if not all the loot you wanted then maybe another 2 weeks to get the other characters up to spec.

They need peeps to stay interested for 2-3 months until the next pack which will probably be the same as this one where all progress gets semi reset :(
 
Anyone want to play new weeklys, nightfalls etc I'm up for it on xbox one? (add me)

I'm also up for trying the raid

Level 29 defender

Much to do on solo with the new content if no one is on?
 
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