*** Destiny Raid & PvP discussion thread ***

[oweneades]

Cool I'll put you on reserves....I wouldn't be surprised if there was a friday night casualty.....usual rules, if someone's not arrived by 1015 and not got in touch then the spot is yours.

Agree getting up to Crota is pretty straightforward, shouldn't take too long.

I was watching a couple of videos last night on Youtube of the Abyss through to crossing the bridge. It looked very similar bar the level penalty and lack of revives. A few tougher enemies whilst the bridge is forming (abyss) but otherwise as per normal.

I will make sure all of my best weapons are on Pigtails or Bluey before the run (depends who I run tonight). My weapons are all over the place so I will have to do a post raid clear up.

My Warlocks are both fully unlocked. I will run fireborn until Crota and then switch to something else to generate orbs for everyone else. As you say self revive is somewhat pointless in that fight due to the oversoul. I might even run voidwalker for the life stealing perk (saying that flame shield might be better, especially if running Monte Carlo coupled with Claws of Ahamkara (dual flame shields)).

I know what I will do, I will make sure all of my best weapons AND armour are on the specific WL I run.

I assume if I run Pigtails through on Normal tonight I will still get the possibility of weapon drops on hard tomorrow? I'm sure this is a yes but once again I am doubting myself.

 

[Chandler_90]

Taken from bungie themselves:

For Raids, players cannot earn new raid-specific loot from the raid more than once a week per mode. The normal and hard Raid modes have their own separate loot tables, so the two modes can be completed separately or can be combined. Completing normal mode does not lock out earning loot on the incomplete hard mode. However, if a player starts the Raid on hard mode and completes it, they will receive the loot rewards from both the normal and hard difficulty mode.
There is a checkpoint for every boss killed that grants activity-specific loot. Furthermore, this checkpoint allows players to return to that checkpoint of the Raid if played before the week resets. Separate characters on the same account can each play the Raid and still get raid-specific loot as they finish each section of the Raid; this means an individual player can earn loot from a Raid for a maximum of six times (for three characters) per weekly lockout. There is a Raid checkpoint tracker for characters that players can access on Bungie.net to keep track of their progress, and to see what bosses have been looted for the week.

I'm going to run my warlock through the abyss the swap to my Titan or hunter at the bridge or death singer.. As I need the loot lol

Probs hunter tbh as she is a higher level

 

[oweneades]

Taken from bungie themselves:



I'm going to run my warlock through the abyss the swap to my Titan or hunter at the bridge or death singer.. As I need the loot lol

Probs hunter tbh as she is a higher level

Gd to know re: bungie quote, thanks .

I thought this was the case (it is for VoG, hence why it is more efficient to just run it on hard).

Daft/genuine question, with the hunters ability to go invisible would it not be better to just run the hunter through the Abyss as well or do you need the armour specific loot on the WL?

If Moody was level 32 I would be running her (I am starting to waver towards preferring my hunter.... ooo I feel dirt saying that ).

Actually now I think about it I might run my hunter through the Abyss anyway as her "don't touch me" gauntlets should make it easier. She is only level 31 but I can switch to Pigtails at the bridge. We will have the bridge checkpoint anyway so its just the extra time to switch out chars.

If everyone is happy with me doing that & then switching to a 32 at the bridge I will bring my hunter for a spin (well a slow invisible walk but you get the idea ).

 

[Chandler_90]

I love how you nickname them!

I'm running the warlock as she is my only 32.. I could run my hunter but she is just a 31.. And I already have the loot

 

[oweneades]

I love how you nickname them!

I'm running the warlock as she is my only 32.. I could run my hunter but she is just a 31..

Yup I like having nicknames for them.

Pigtails is my "primary" or first character so she normally gets the pick of loot. She also has pigtails so, you know, amazing!
Moody, as a hunter, gets picked on by the Warlocks so constantly looks miserable. She is a firey red head running the God of War shader which looks awesome.

Bluey just likes to dance.

Downside is that now I have given them a personality I can't bring myself to get rid of any of them. Bluey was going to be replaced by a Titan but I just couldn't hit the delete button. Hence why I have a Titan on my wife's account which is also nicknamed.

 

[mid_gen]

Worst thing I ever did was roll my second warlock as an awoken female....looks dreadful, especially in the vendor armour....so I topped it off with provincial royale. Yum.

Main warlock exo male looks much better...but the raid armour is starting to annoy me...although I wouldn't mind the batman helm.

Awoken female hunter which is going to become my main for HoW just looks badass :E

 

[ps3ud0]

Are there any Crota HM cp runs happening this weekend? Like to get it done before the reset and to test the Titan strategy. Might just LFG if not

ps3ud0

 

[Soulja]

Are there any Crota HM cp runs happening this weekend? Like to get it done before the reset and to test the Titan strategy. Might just LFG if not

ps3ud0

I'm up for having a go this weekend with my level 32 titan.

 

[mid_gen]

I'm around all weekend, have Crota HM checkpoint with my main 32 warlock. Currently booked for raids Saturday morning and Sunday evening. Could do saturday afternoon, or Sunday any time til 5pm.

 

[oweneades]

I'm up for having a go this weekend with my level 32 titan.

I'm around all weekend, have Crota HM checkpoint with my main 32 warlock. Currently booked for raids Saturday morning and Sunday evening. Could do saturday afternoon, or Sunday any time til 5pm.

I will also have an alt WL to run through if you need an extra pair of hands.

Just watched the following video which seems like a relatively straight forward strategy:

EDIT: Video *may* have swearies. I can't tell as I am at work and can't run sound.

No idea if this is what any of you guys run but I presume this is the "Titan strategy" of blocking the boomers & removing them from the equation.

I'm happy with running whatever strategy we go with to take the dude down. Pigtails will go up and slap him if that is what it takes.

 

[ps3ud0]

That's one **** strat - talking more about using it for blessing of light just before you hit Crota while everyone uses the middle ledge. Only people that could be hit is the swordbearer or the supporting titan through the whole run

Afraid I can only make Sunday evening so if we can get 6 that would be great

ps3ud0

 

[oweneades]

That's one **** strat - talking more about using it for blessing of light just before you hit Crota while everyone uses the middle ledge. Only people that could be hit is the swordbearer or the supporting titan through the whole run

Afraid I can only make Sunday evening so if we can get 6 that would be great

ps3ud0

Fair enough.

I should be around for Sunday evening. What sort of time?

 

[ps3ud0]

Say 7pm? Be obvious quite quickly if we are capable of doing it Id have thought!

Only thing I'm not clear on is if you can't get 3 goes at Crota in the first pass then do you have to miss a go in the 2nd (so only hit him once through that pass) to ensure you don't accidently cause him to enrage during the Ogre sequence

That and obviously how susceptible the swordbearer is to boomer knight hits when hitting Crota - maybe we should try and stun them with a single headshot on each...

Also how can you build the sword super in time? Maybe the 3rd pass it could be used to finish him off - never noticed how much it charges tbh.

ps3ud0

 

[wattsy]

anyone doing a raid tonight with a space free ?

 

[oweneades]

Say 7pm? Be obvious quite quickly if we are capable of doing it Id have thought!

Only thing I'm not clear on is if you can't get 3 goes at Crota in the first pass then do you have to miss a go in the 2nd (so only hit him once through that pass) to ensure you don't accidently cause him to enrage during the Ogre sequence

That and obviously how susceptible the swordbearer is to boomer knight hits when hitting Crota - maybe we should try and stun them with a single headshot on each...

Also how can you build the sword super in time? Maybe the 3rd pass it could be used to finish him off - never noticed how much it charges tbh.

ps3ud0

7PM sounds good. I will double check but I don't know of anything planned my side. Put me down unless I tell you otherwise.

In terms of sword goes on Crota, I don't know.

Judging by the video I posted they hit him twice with each sword. The viewpoint does not shown the exact method used by the swordbearer though.

Depending on sword bearer method / choice (in terms of R1/R2 melee choice) I assume that missing a third chance on the first sword and going for a second on the second sword would be enough to trigger an enrage.

 

[thor]

Also how can you build the sword super in time? Maybe the 3rd pass it could be used to finish him off - never noticed how much it charges tbh.

Without picking up any orbs, the super will be ready 1 second before the sword disappears. Normally, this will be well after the two rounds of hits.

The swordman should easily get 3 hits in per round, and 4 if timed very well (for 6-8 hits per sword) but it's probably not worth the risk. I found that getting 3-4 hits per sword and using one super on either of the 2 swords was too much - he enraged at the end of the second sword.
Getting 3-4 hits per round, per sword will leave him at just above a quarter health which allows you to kill him quite easily with the 3rd sword (although I've failed to get the 3rd sword so far )

 

[ps3ud0]

7PM sounds good. I will double check but I don't know of anything planned my side. Put me down unless I tell you otherwise.

In terms of sword goes on Crota, I don't know.

Judging by the video I posted they hit him twice with each sword. The viewpoint does not shown the exact method used by the swordbearer though.

Depending on sword bearer method / choice (in terms of R1/R2 melee choice) I assume that missing a third chance on the first sword and going for a second on the second sword would be enough to trigger an enrage.

Left stick up and R2 three to four times seems the most popular combo

Without picking up any orbs, the super will be ready 1 second before the sword disappears. Normally, this will be well after the two rounds of hits.

The swordman should easily get 3 hits in per round, and 4 if timed very well (for 6-8 hits per sword) but it's probably not worth the risk. I found that getting 3-4 hits per sword and using one super on either of the 2 swords was too much - he enraged at the end of the second sword.
Getting 3-4 hits per round, per sword will leave him at just above a quarter health which allows you to kill him quite easily with the 3rd sword (although I've failed to get the 3rd sword so far )

Ah cheers thats helpful to know - so basically business as usual and then make sure you can easily complete it in the 3rd pass. I say easily but you know what I mean...

I suspect we will foul up on Boomer knights still which we now dont want to kill but will accidently

One thing to definitely consider is while you can do the middle ledge trick for the Ogres it is during that matchup that Crota wonders left/right (normally left) so you have to be quick at getting them down and then getting back inside...

So Sunday 7pm - Crota HM cp

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007 - 32 Titan
2) Oweneades - OweO - 32 Warlock
3) Soulja - Soulja85 - 32 Titan
4) Greboth - Greeboth - 32 Warlock
5) Zoomez - Zoomez - 32 Hunter
6)

ps3ud0

 

[sieze2]

shweeeeet - Full house Sorted guys!

Friday 23rd 8:15PM - CE Normal mode.

1)- Zoomeez - Level 32 Hunter / 31 Warlock
2)- Polynomial - Level 32 Warlock
3)- OweO - Level 32 Warlock
4)- redrooster303 - Level 31 Titan
5)- Daviem66 -
6)- Turbo_Nuter - Level 31 Warlock / Hunter or 32 Titan


Saturday 24th 8:15PM - VoG Hard mode.

1)- Zoomeez - Level 32 Hunter / 31 Warlock
2)- Polynomial - Level 32 Warlock
3)- OweO - Level 32 Warlock
4)- Daviem66 -
5)- Cowboydebop7DR
6)-

Sorry guys I don't think I will be able to do Saturday night after all. I thought I best let you know ASAP. Anyone else want to do it on Hard Sat night ?

 

[oweneades]

Left stick up and R2 three to four times seems the most popular combo


Ah cheers thats helpful to know - so basically business as usual and then make sure you can easily complete it in the 3rd pass. I say easily but you know what I mean...

I suspect we will foul up on Boomer knights still which we now dont want to kill but will accidently

One thing to definitely consider is while you can do the middle ledge trick for the Ogres it is during that matchup that Crota wonders left/right (normally left) so you have to be quick at getting them down and then getting back inside...

So Sunday 7pm - Crota HM cp

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007 - 32 Titan
2) Oweneades - OweO - 32 Warlock?
3) Soulja - Soulja85 - 32 Titan
4)
5)
6)

ps3ud0

Just to confirm I will be running a level 32 Warlock. Whether I run VW or SS will depend on team requirements and orb generation.

 

[thor]

Left stick up and R2 three to four times seems the most popular combo


Ah cheers thats helpful to know - so basically business as usual and then make sure you can easily complete it in the 3rd pass. I say easily but you know what I mean...

I suspect we will foul up on Boomer knights still which we now dont want to kill but will accidently

One thing to definitely consider is while you can do the middle ledge trick for the Ogres it is during that matchup that Crota wonders left/right (normally left) so you have to be quick at getting them down and then getting back inside...

So Sunday 7pm - Crota HM cp

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007 - 32 Titan
2) Oweneades - OweO - 32 Warlock
3) Soulja - Soulja85 - 32 Titan
4)
5)
6)

ps3ud0

Yeah, I think we have 60 seconds to get the Ogres down and back inside to avoid Crota. They usually sit around underneath the ledge though so hopefully that'll be plenty of time.

For your team setup, I cannot recommend a Bladedancer Hunter highly enough! Being able to go invis and jump up, ready to hit Crota the moment his shield drops, then drop sword, melee and go invis again, ready to start hitting him the second time.. I imagine taking him down will be considerably harder without that technique.