*** Destiny Raid & PvP discussion thread ***

thor said:
Destiny was pretty generous with loot tonight! One HM raid put out the following:

320 Ghost shell
319 Titan Mark
314 Pulse
316 Fusion
314 Fusion
303 Fusion (yup, 3 fusions from one raid!)
308 Chest
306 Chest

I then did a Nightfall and got:

310 Insurmountable Skullfort (as end reward)
310 Mask of the Third Man (exotic engram that fell from boss)
310 Zhalo Supercell (legendary engram from Cryptarch package after cashing in the exotic)
Darkblade Helm (fell from boss)

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Decent haul there, really need to get a hard mode raid done at some point. Done a few normal mode raids and got some decent drops. But a lot of the times, I don't get anything great from the nf's. Which kinda sucks lol, RNG has a lot to answer for me in regards to me :p
 
you got all that from a raid and all I got was a auto rifle from trials. I don't know why bungie have made trials harder (you get matched on wins first then ping) and the rewards have been nerfed.

The chest on the lighthouse should give out at least 3 rewards not just one.

You get rewards from the bounties (which are easy to complete I had done all of them apart from 1 within 3 matches) but all they are is passage coins it seems with a very small chance of something better.

I don't know why they have made these changes.

I suppose I'll just have to get my personal satisfaction rewards from double snipes, double hammers, res kills, etc.

I hope I get the pulse tonight, also need a decent rocket launcher, I'm thinking of buying year 2 truth tbh.

edit: forgot i got some scout rifle which is meant to be good but got a crappy roll.
 
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Well you can also get 320 exotics from Trials, so that's something. Don't think that's possible through the raid.
 
daz.wallace said:
Sorry fez, I know you wanted to get this put to bed and I let you down :(

At least tehbluebear got his exotic sword before hand :)
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Lol, don't worry about it. I think the game was just watching you in the previous sections because it was adamant that you were going to do most of the sisters platform jumping. I think I was chosen once and most of the rest of us were only chosen once or twice.

We will get it. Its really simple bar the platform jumping so once we get that it should get finished pretty sharpish!
 
I have to say I really didn't enjoy my Trials experience last night. The red bar gods were out in full force. To paint you a picture of how bad this got at times we had 1 guy left on the enemy team and he went for a revive but we cut him down and the 'all enemies eliminated' sign comes up along with the timer so we start running to get special ammo, at 2 seconds the timer stops and the guy he 'revived' shotguns us both and we lose the round. The very next game we had a guy run into our spawn with no backup he just stormed in with a shotgun and he just wouldn't take damage, all 3 of us were shooting him.. we eventually killed him and we all survived but that's what really puts me off Trials.

We were beaten by 1 team and they were genuinely better than us and I'm the 1st to congratulate people like that but I dunno, I just hate that in Destiny if there's a hamster in the back powering your connection you become some unstoppable killing machine.

I'm not bitter about all this, honest.
 
Hey all - is anyone on ps4 up for some trials this weekend? The ppl I play with are PVE only and as such I've yet to give trials a proper go. I'm not pro at all, a little above average, but would like to give it a solid attempt this time round.
 
fez said:
Lol, don't worry about it. I think the game was just watching you in the previous sections because it was adamant that you were going to do most of the sisters platform jumping. I think I was chosen once and most of the rest of us were only chosen once or twice.

We will get it. Its really simple bar the platform jumping so once we get that it should get finished pretty sharpish!
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lol I think you're right, the 2 worst jumpers, myself and my brother had the lions share of the picks, the game's AI has a wicked sense of humour lol

The actual taking them down is straightforward and I think we were doing that quite well, just those £&@%ing platforms!
 
Drunzer said:
I have to say I really didn't enjoy my Trials experience last night. The red bar gods were out in full force. To paint you a picture of how bad this got at times we had 1 guy left on the enemy team and he went for a revive but we cut him down and the 'all enemies eliminated' sign comes up along with the timer so we start running to get special ammo, at 2 seconds the timer stops and the guy he 'revived' shotguns us both and we lose the round. The very next game we had a guy run into our spawn with no backup he just stormed in with a shotgun and he just wouldn't take damage, all 3 of us were shooting him.. we eventually killed him and we all survived but that's what really puts me off Trials.

We were beaten by 1 team and they were genuinely better than us and I'm the 1st to congratulate people like that but I dunno, I just hate that in Destiny if there's a hamster in the back powering your connection you become some unstoppable killing machine.

I'm not bitter about all this, honest.
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you can counter lag switchers and lagg. you get 2 types of reaction to lagg/cheaters. people who complain and moan and those that react and put measures in place to counter it.

It's all about preventing revives or putting them straight back down. Whilst keeping an eye out for the cheater/lagger. Don't go looking for them stick with the orbs.

If anyone can hold their own up against high level pvp players me and my mate who i went flawless with yesterday need a third today. If you are crap though we will drop you, not looking to carry dead weight just want to go flawless as quick as possible 1 or 2 runs like yesterday.
 
Warbie said:
Hey all - is anyone on ps4 up for some trials this weekend? The ppl I play with are PVE only and as such I've yet to give trials a proper go. I'm not pro at all, a little above average, but would like to give it a solid attempt this time round.
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a little above average isn't going to get you flawless. You could probably do the bounties easy enough.

flawless is for like the top 5-15% of players.

just grab 2 similarly levelled players.

it's all about sniping though, if your not good with a sniper then i wouldn't bother tbh, you won't find it a good experience at all getting smashed.

i take it that when you didn't give a proper go? you got smashed?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
you can counter lag switchers and lagg. you get 2 types of reaction to lagg/cheaters. people who complain and moan and those that react and put measures in place to counter it.

It's all about preventing revives or putting them straight back down. Whilst keeping an eye out for the cheater/lagger. Don't go looking for them stick with the orbs.

If anyone can hold their own up against high level pvp players me and my mate who i went flawless with yesterday need a third today. If you are crap though we will drop you, not looking to carry dead weight just want to go flawless as quick as possible 1 or 2 runs like yesterday.
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My goodness you are a mouth sometimes. You're talking to me like I've never been flawless before. The point of my post wasn't to look for strategy, if I wanted that I would talk to somebody like Moe. I was talking about how ridiculous my experience was last night. You can give advice without sounding completely condescending like you had no reason to include this 'you can counter lag switchers and lagg. you get 2 types of reaction to lagg/cheaters. people who complain and moan and those that react and put measures in place to counter it.' you had no absolutely no reason to put that in there.

I don't know how you talk to other people on here but let me tell you something right now, you'll not be making a habit of talking to me like that. We're here to talk about Destiny, we're here to help eachother.. not try and put people down.
 
you were blaming your experience on lagg and lagg switching so that's why i mentioned what i did.

i've been in trials runs where instead of helping the team the player will just complain about lagg rather than call out what is actually going on or constantly shout and swear whilst the others are trying to concentrate.

so i think lag gets too much of a blame, yes it's bad so is the cheating but it's not unbeatable was the point i was getting at. we got lagg switched 1 game i think it was and maybe 1 or 2 others where the connection was a bit dodgy.

the thing that is unbeatable is the disconnect glitch.

how fast is yous download/upload? and how many people within the house hold? the majority of my games last night were fine. only 1 was really bad.

also where did i put you down? i just shared some tips. lagg in 3 v 3 isn't an issue imo. 6 v 6 it's a huge issue.
 
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Your comment about two types of players ones who blame lag and ones who overcome it was directly after I had voiced my displeasure on a laggy experience in Trials last night, you knew exactly what you were doing. Even your advice to Warbie, it was okay up until the last line 'i take it that when you didn't give a proper go? you got smashed?' You don't need to add stuff like that to your posts.

If you want to give advice, give advice. You need to get down off this imaginary high horse of yours though.
 
i'll admit i've been smashed but i didn't blame it on anything other than not being good enough. we got beat off a really good team yesterday. 2 of the snipers in that team were just world class. nothing you can do when you come up against them other than try again and hope you avoid a team like that.

when it comes to trials i actually sit up and play. i make all my surrounding around me as desirable as possible.

i use my Q701's (normally hd558's).

i used to move my console closer to me (bluetooth issues) i now have it beside me.

i guess i just didn't believe him when he said i didn't give it a proper go. i think the only people who don't give it a proper go are those that have been flawless 1000 times and don't care anymore.

therefore i was just trying to be realistic. for trials you need to bring your "A" game and your best weapons unless your in the top 5% of pvp'ers who can stroll through it using the test weapons (yes we got beat of a guy using test weapons from the gunsmith).

whenever i play normal pvp i just play for fun and don't try but i don't think anyone goes into trials not giving it a proper go apart from the top 5%
 
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I would try not to listen to Sonny once he goes on about Trials and how you have to be amazing at PvP to go flawless. His record from yesterday is ample proof that you can be carried if you have a couple of decent teammates:

1: 5 kills - 1 K/D (his teammate got 19 kills - 19 K/D)
2: 5 kills - 0.83 (13 kills - 3.25)
3: 4 kills - 0.4 (14 kills - 2)
4: 7 kills - 2.33 (10 kills - 3.33)
5: 5 kills - 0.83 (9 kills - 3)
6: 2 kills - 0.67 (9 kills - 9)
7: 3 kills - 0.38 (13 kills - 1.86)
8: 3 kills - 0.5 (7 kills - 1.75)
9: 7 kills - 1 (11 kills - 1.57)
10: 3 kills - 0.38 (7 kills - 1)
11: 5 kills - 5 (10 kills - 5)
12: 5 kills - 0.83 (11 kills - 3.67)
13: 7 kills - 3.5 (9 kills - 9)
14: 1 kill - 0.33 (8 kills - 8)
15: 7 kills - 1.75 (7 kills - 3.5)
16: 3 kills - 3 (7 kills - 7)
17: 4 kills - 0.67 (10 kills - 3.33)

There is not one single game where he was top of his team, with only 5 of those 17 games where he actually killed more people than died himself. No wonder he's looking for a decent player to help him out today! He should really be more honest and say he needs a decent player to carry him to the Lighthouse! :D
 
i'll admit i had a nightmare yesterday but you can see i was positive in 7 games not 5

and 4 games i got 2 or above k/d.

yeah the guy who i play with is a monster. what's my overall k/d in trials though? it should be positive.

i've done trials runs with someone where they went flawless with like 5 kills the full 9 games. that would be carrying.

is there an assist stat? i would love to see how many kills i helped my team get as yesterday did seem exceptionally high
 
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The Burning Shrine - 8/28/2015

Games 12 Wins 11 (91.7%)
Time Played 1h 10m 57s Combat Rating 464.6
Kills 74 K/g 6.17
Assists 23 Deaths 44
K/D 1.68 K+A/D 2.20
Revives 14 Revived 14
Avg Kill Distance 17.1

previous trials ;)


Bannerfall - 10/30/2015

Tier
Acolyte of Osiris
Games 17 Wins 14 (82.4%)
Time Played 2h 9m 24s Combat Rating 139.8
Kills 76 K/g 4.47
Assists 42 Deaths 85
K/D 0.89 K+A/D 1.39
Revives 25 Revived 33
Avg Kill Distance 8.6

42 assists as you can see nearly double the normal
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
i'll admit i had a nightmare yesterday but you can see i was positive in 6 games not 5

and 4 games i got 2 or above k/d.

yeah the guy who i play with is a monster. what's my overall k/d in trials though? it should be positive.
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Nope, just 5 games where you got more kills than deaths. There were two games where you got as many kills as deaths (1 K/D).

You're sitting on a 1.10 K/D ratio for Trials as a whole, which I'm pretty sure would put you well outside the top 5-15% you believe is needed to go flawless.
 
The Burning Shrine - 8/28/2015

Games 7 Wins 7 (100.0%)
Time Played 49m 17s Combat Rating 396.7
Kills 51 K/g 7.29
Assists 23 Deaths 36
K/D 1.42 K+A/D 2.06
Revives 7 Revived 12
Avg Kill Distance 20.5
 
Sonny you're missing my point or ignoring it entirely. My gripe isn't with the advice you're giving people, it's how you come across. There's so many people on here that clash with you, at some point you have to take a step back and ask yourself why that is happening. As I said, if you want to give advice you go right ahead. Get rid of the smug and condescending tone though, as far as I'm concerned this discussion is over so do not expect any further replies from me on the matter.
 
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