dfi-rd580 crossfire due soon? (gibbo?)
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It looks like a really good board in fact its the best thought out of all SLI and Crossfire boards, however it has one problem it doesn't provide enough internal USB headers so I can use the cases front panel and my card reader, which is a shame really.
Heres what i'm after in a mobo
1) A free 1x PCI-E slot, as I might want to add a PCI-E 1x card at some point (you never know)
2) All the SATA ports on a single controller allowing mixed mode raid, say raid 0 for booting and a single drive as just a disk (that can't be hard surely?)
3) 2 USB headers on the mobo (so i can connect the front panel usb and my card reader)
4) Maybe a crossfire and a non-crossfire option.
5) Dual lan
6) A PCI slot, why do manufacturers seems to think no one uses them? do they not understand their onboard audio controllers lick balls? do they not understand that some of us enjoy music and thus want a good soundcard, with dolby digital (soundstorm) and good DACs?
The other SATA problem is when i want mixed mode raid and some random disks I can't and need an extra sata controller but then that comes back to no pci slots.
Please someone get a motherboard designed correctly, in fact they should get me to design them.
Heres what i'm after in a mobo
1) A free 1x PCI-E slot, as I might want to add a PCI-E 1x card at some point (you never know)
2) All the SATA ports on a single controller allowing mixed mode raid, say raid 0 for booting and a single drive as just a disk (that can't be hard surely?)
3) 2 USB headers on the mobo (so i can connect the front panel usb and my card reader)
4) Maybe a crossfire and a non-crossfire option.
5) Dual lan
6) A PCI slot, why do manufacturers seems to think no one uses them? do they not understand their onboard audio controllers lick balls? do they not understand that some of us enjoy music and thus want a good soundcard, with dolby digital (soundstorm) and good DACs?
The other SATA problem is when i want mixed mode raid and some random disks I can't and need an extra sata controller but then that comes back to no pci slots.
Please someone get a motherboard designed correctly, in fact they should get me to design them.
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Designing them is one thing, getting all that to work without any problems is another. If the MB manufacturers were going to put all that on, they would probably have to make the boards bigger.
Jimi said:
Nah their half way there to layout nirvana, look at the DFI RD580 u can use double slot cards in both pci-e slots and still have pci-e x1 slot u can use, it has dual onboard nics and two pci slots free when using xfire so we can have sound card and another card. In fact the only thing DFI have have screwed up on is putting 6 usb ports on the back, i'd rather have 4 with the option of 6 on the back so I can have the potential of a card reader and front panel usb.
If only other companies followed suit and nvidia and ati made a single chip chipset, which supported mixed mode raid with enough ports then you'd save more board space.
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Well, despite all my comments about the price... I have ordered one.
Not from OCUK i'm sorry to say... I found another site that clearly made a mistake with pricing as got it for same price OCUK were - pre price rise. They have also now increased and are very similar.
On balance this board looks like the best option for me. The Asus is doing great, but with a vopo LS on the way (he says hopefully, as its taking its time) the vcore limited to 1.6 of the Asus is too restrictive. The DFI goes to 2.1 as far as i can tell.
Only a couple of complaints / querys - Only one on board USB plug... LS will take that, meaning no front USB for the case
and i'm unsure if the board has optical out... a must for me.
What does look good is the space between the GPU's the Abit looks very tight there, the DFI is using the space very well.
Anyway... time will tell - just a waiting game now.
Not from OCUK i'm sorry to say... I found another site that clearly made a mistake with pricing as got it for same price OCUK were - pre price rise. They have also now increased and are very similar.
On balance this board looks like the best option for me. The Asus is doing great, but with a vopo LS on the way (he says hopefully, as its taking its time) the vcore limited to 1.6 of the Asus is too restrictive. The DFI goes to 2.1 as far as i can tell.
Only a couple of complaints / querys - Only one on board USB plug... LS will take that, meaning no front USB for the case
and i'm unsure if the board has optical out... a must for me.What does look good is the space between the GPU's the Abit looks very tight there, the DFI is using the space very well.
Anyway... time will tell - just a waiting game now.
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StuRReaL said:
You should take a look at the Sapphire then...
2x PCI-E slots useable with 2 ATI double width cards in use, plenty of USB headers (2 onboard, 2 internal), PCI Slot still useable for sound 4 sata 1 ports, 2 sata 2 ports and 2 IDE ports..
Dual ethernet, 10/100 for internet, and gigabit for home network...
Its pretty much all you wanted...
Dr Who said:You should take a look at the Sapphire then...
2x PCI-E slots useable with 2 ATI double width cards in use, plenty of USB headers (2 onboard, 2 internal), PCI Slot still useable for sound 4 sata 1 ports, 2 sata 2 ports and 2 IDE ports..
Dual ethernet, 10/100 for internet, and gigabit for home network...
Its pretty much all you wanted...
Which board is that then? baring in mind i have a sapphire pure innovation at the moment and it totally sucks, and all their new bios's make the boards worse. If you mean the new board they've done with the single pci slot then no thats completely pointless as the pci slot is useless and i need that for a soundcard and I need the second nic.
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Soldato
A9RD580ADV Pure Crossfire Advantage
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/mainboards_specifications.php?gpid=142
Gibbo reckons under 100 squids
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/mainboards_specifications.php?gpid=142
Gibbo reckons under 100 squids
Dr Who said:A9RD580ADV Pure Crossfire Advantage
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/mainboards_specifications.php?gpid=142
Gibbo reckons under 100 squids
Hmmm yeah but still one of the PCI slots is unuseable
although the price is very good, the DFI still looks better due to having the second free pci and 8 sata ports, plus as I said earlier sapphire are really bad when it comes to bios's the new bios for the pure innovation actually breaks it more than it already is.
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andyr said:Reading the thread on the xtreme forum it seems the only complaint so far is it working well with infineon chips which are the ones on mushkin redline
Sorry do you mean the DFI is NOT working well with Infineon chips?
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Suman
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Sumanji said:
I posted I link to the thread on the XS forums where Tony has said there is a problem with the DFI board only liking Infineon chips a couple of pages back. He said to reflash as soon as you get the board.
Jimi said:
hi , i read it as not liking infineon chips , but i hope your right , but i read a test done be AndreYang and it seems to like everything very much
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94341
page 4 is the good bit about infineon chips but he recons anything bought in 2006 is not as good as the old chips
Soldato
bmorgan98 said:
Theres a lot of ways, either manually or using nlite.
I used to do manually as nlite used to have problems, but the author has it sorted now since RC3.
http://www.nliteos.com/
Gerard said:Take it dfi havn't moved on the price of this then?
Nope they sent me an email with a PDF showing their motherboard to be 0.4% quicker than the Asus board. I think they believe this justifies the extra cost, LOL.
However it does clock a lot better when running Crossfire but the premium is still too much. If they don't sell then obviously they will drop the price but people are still buying them so will just have to wait and see.
Well these are showing as 'in stock' now...but it looks like DFI has still got its head too far up its rear.
If the SLI-DR Expert costs £146, why does the crossfire one cost £176? Does it cook, clean and iron?
The Abit RD580 (£140, in stock) is using the same ULi 1575 chipset so that can't be the justification.
edit: just saw Gibbo's reply
If the SLI-DR Expert costs £146, why does the crossfire one cost £176? Does it cook, clean and iron?
The Abit RD580 (£140, in stock) is using the same ULi 1575 chipset so that can't be the justification.
edit: just saw Gibbo's reply
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for me to buy this xfre dfi would cost me before shipping which is 22 euros and the dfi mobo is €264,total =€286 ,tooooo much 
sapphire32 xfire is €210,total €232
think i'll go single g-card route
mobo makers are getting as bad as g-card makers
sapphire32 xfire is €210,total €232
think i'll go single g-card route
mobo makers are getting as bad as g-card makers
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agreed, far too expensive and tbh i can see there being a lot of bugs with this board to start with, i have heard a rumour on the grapevine that people are experiencing a few probs with it. So i'm just going to sit on a sli-D for the time being until all is worked out by which time conroe will be around (hopefully) and i can switch to that and pwn u alll hehehehhe