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Vimes said:
Absolutely. I just alternate between "Wide" and "4:3" and it alternates each and every time with doing nothing else at all.

In fact at 1440p when I press that button to alternate the monitor does a slight flicker in its attempts to alternate.

I have used 800x600 and it works a treat going from a "spare" box to a completely filled screen. I have also tried another 4:3 of 1600x1200 and that works fine also.

Hope that helps.

FWIW - I'm using a Asus GTX670 NVidia card with the latest drivers.

What GPU and method of connection are you using...?
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I'm using an NVIDIA 9800GT at the moment over DL-DVI. Tried my laptop also over Displayport. i also get the brief flicker when running at 2560 x 1440 but changing that setting which did also suggest it was trying to do something

there's something weird going on though. it does work with some resolutions but i dont think it's controlling 4:3 aspect at all:

  • 1920 x 1440 = does nothing, always fills the screen
  • 1920 x 1200 (16:10) = does nothing, always fills the screen
  • 1920 x 1080 (16:9) = does nothing
  • 1680 x 1050 (16:10 aspect) = it does control it, either wide or with borders down the side
  • 1600 x 1200 (4:3) = does nothing, always fills the screen
  • 1600 x 1024 = works in that it adds borders down the sides, but not the right aspect
  • 1600 x 900= even though this is 16:9, the 4:3 mode does add borders down the sides
  • 1440 x 900 (16:10) = works
  • 1366 x 768 = even though this is 16:9, the 4:3 mode does add borders down the sides
  • 1360 x 768 (16:9) = works
  • 800 x 600 = works


so it seems very random, working at some resolutions but not really maintaining a 4:3 aspect ratio like it suggests. it seems to be like it just puts black borders down the sides, always the same width, when operating at certain resolutions
 
Garmin said:
If the Dell U2711 was set to sRGB should the colours not look the same, I would have imagined that if you were viewing under Adobe RGB on the Dell that they would be different.
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Regardless of how the monitor is set up regarding its emulation mode the light source is still different. The WCG-CCFL has completely different spectral qualities to the WLED and is picked up differently by both keen eyes and the camera, particularly with respect to whites and native colour temperatures.
 
@Baddass - I take your point as I hadn't thought of the 16:9 resolution 1080p needing black bars all around it if this "scaler" was working as it is thought that it should do. Is this how monitors with expected functional scalers work..?

FWIW - when I try 1600x1200 I do see a screen change difference as it gets wider and then back to its square shape but it is not a full stretch, only a partial one. I had not thought of testing all the resolutions you noted.

I think that the naming of the "4:3" is misleading, or partially dysfunctional but are the ones it struggles with true VESA resolutions..?
 
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Vimes said:
What happens when you watch movies in a Window with Windows still dominating the screen..?

Also are you using anything like NVidia to control the colour and brightness when a movie is playing...?

As a side note - why do people seem to like touching the screen of a monitor when they are pointing at something on the screen :mad:
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if I window the movie when it's doing it it slides back to my settings (it's not like an instant snap, it's like moving the dimmer switch back to the right position over a second or 2), but the dimmed-ness of it covers the whole screen for a second or two while it sorts itself back to the correct setting

it is definitely the monitor that is doing it, I've used my PC for ages on other screens and never had this before with the same windows settings, it only does it when watching full screen movies

and as I say - when I got back to desktop it still does it for a second or two and then stops when it realises the movie is not the dominant object anymore

from past experience, an nvidia movie settings issue would only cover the windowed movie, not the whole screen
 
I mentioned the Nvidia thing as I did not know if you had NVidia or AMD, which I'm not familiar with, for your GPU which could be causing or contributing to the issue.

I do remember that with my HTPC, albeit connected to a plasma TV, if I have it set to use the full (0-255) Dynamic range, in the drivers, then my XBMC picture goes strange with weird contrast and brightness issues. So for that I have to have it set to use the video settings.

So, albeit, slowly for you, the monitor acts as normal when the movie is not full screen and, perhaps, something other than the movie window is selected.

Strange for sure.

Are full screen games ok..?
 
Vimes said:
@baddass - I take your point as I hadn't thought of the 16:9 resolution 1080p needing black bars all around it if this "scaler" was working as it is thought that it should do. Is this how monitors with expected functional scalers work..?

FWIW - when I try 1600x1200 I do see a screen change difference as it gets wider and then back to its square shape but it is not a full stretch, only a partial one. I had not thought of testing all the resolutions you noted.

I think that the naming of the "4:3" is misleading, or partially dysfunctional but are the ones it struggles with true VESA resolutions..?
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it's certainly doing something odd. the scaler should (in the normal sense of how they work) just limit the image aspect ratio to it's setting, no matter what the input resolution. so in theory if you input a 1920 x 1080 resolution for instance (16:9 aspect which is same as the screen) then the "wide" mode should fill the screen exactly, and the "4:3" mode should squash it sideways

if you input a 4:3 resolution like 1600 x 1200 then the wide mode should stretch it sideways to fill the screen and the 4:3 mode should maintain it's aspect ratio but fill as much of the screen as possible (i'e only bars down the sides)

you would need a 1:1 pixel mapping option to show a 1600 x 1200 res for instance with bars top and bottom where each pixel is mapped 1 to 1.


so in the case of this screen i'm not sure exactly what it's doing. i need to run some more tests but it does seem to depend on the input resolution to be honest and it looks to me more like when you input a 16:10 aspect resolution, and then go into 4:3 mode, it is the correct aspect ratio for the resolution

maybe the setting should be called "bars down the side, sometimes" :)
 
Macbooks

FYI on my Macbook Pro, through Displayport, I get a black screen and the monitor goes to sleep. Not quite the crashing others have reported, but still completely useless.

DVI and VGA both give me 1080 maximum resolution.

Looks like I'll be buying myself a dual-link DVI adaptor. Wish I'd checked this forum before I bought this monitor.

Bah.
 
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andyfitter said:
FYI on my Macbook Pro, through Displayport, I get a black screen and the monitor goes to sleep. Not quite the crashing others have reported, but still completely useless.

DVI and VGA both give me 1080 maximum resolution.

Looks like I'll be buying myself a dual-link DVI adaptor. Wish I'd checked this forum before I bought this monitor.

Bah.
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the monitor comes with a dual-link DVI cable anyway? so if your graphics card supports DL-DVI output (note, thats not 2x DVI connections, its still a single connection) then you should be fine to run at 2560 x 1440 resolution. thats the maximum, not 1920 x 1080 :)
 
Baddass said:
the monitor comes with a dual-link DVI cable anyway? so if your graphics card supports DL-DVI output (note, thats not 2x DVI connections, its still a single connection) then you should be fine to run at 2560 x 1440 resolution. thats the maximum, not 1920 x 1080 :)
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Nice idea, but as I said, it's a Macbook Pro. It has a Mini Displayport output only, and I can get a bunch of adaptors for VGA/DVI/HDMI/Dual-link DVI.

Seems like a Dual Link DVI adaptor and the supplied Dual Link Cable is the only one that might work on this setup.
 
ah ok, sorry i misunderstood. using the mini DP > Displayport connection does it not show a picture at all, or just not the BIOS / boot process?
 
Baddass said:
ah ok, sorry i misunderstood. using the mini DP > Displayport connection does it not show a picture at all, or just not the BIOS / boot process?
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No problem. Nope, no picture at all. The Mac thinks it is connected to a screen of the correct resolution, and that screen is indeed being rendered if I connect via logmein, it's just that the DGM monitor displays nothing at all at any point via Mini-DP->DP.
 
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