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Did anyone get the FE version? Anyone?

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Quite a few of the TUF reviews, including the Hardware Unboxed one, are for the OC model. This is more expensive than the FE, especially on the sites inflating the price way above RRP.

I think the OC is the exact same card cooler wise, there's just a switch between silent and OC. I would bet that the non OC version is equivalent to the 'silent' mode on the OC version. At least I hope that's the case :)
 
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I think the OC is the exact same card cooler wise, there's just a switch between silent and OC. I would bet that the non OC version is equivalent to the 'silent' mode on the OC version. At least I hope that's the case :)
The only difference on the BIOS is that one stops the fan when under a certain temperature.
 
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Typical launch and limited stock, with price gouging etc. I remember the days of having to be super quick on release time but having to compete with bots is never going to happen. I genuinely sympathis with those who wanted to get one for themselves and **** those who bought one/some to make a massive profit.
 
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How big would the stock have needed to be not to sell out very quickly and leave a lot of people growling?

Well they have 80% of the market, they know their yields and sales figures so Nvidia should definitely know. I've got no idea but when big US chains had a dozen cards per store in metropolitan areas that sounds like woeful undersupply.

If I was in charge of strategy at Nvidia of be hoping this was part of the plan otherwise I might be looking for a new job by now. Given their next level planning in other areas is hard to believe it was all a mistake.
 
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Wow - I am working from home today and set up one of my 49 with multiple browser windows to refresh every 10 seconds. Watched as a 2 RTX 3080 came into stock and available to buy. Within less then 5 seconds from clicking buy it had already gone out of stock.

Seems bots are at most sites at the moment.

We don't stand a chance do we :(
 
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Typical launch and limited stock, with price gouging etc. I remember the days of having to be super quick on release time but having to compete with bots is never going to happen. I genuinely sympathis with those who wanted to get one for themselves and **** those who bought one/some to make a massive profit.

I wasn't even that interested in this launch but I would have bought an FE yesterday from the nVidia site if it were possible. I'm just going to wait it out now, can't be bothered checking their site and other sites every day for cards in stock. It is indeed a ****take that we have to put up with this nonsense every time they launch cards now. The industry needs heavier regulation, in my opinion, if your launch is essentially a paper one or not far off then you should have to announce it as such.
 
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Also to point out again, a triple slot cooler most surely should be a lot better than a dual slot one, if you can fit one in your case then it may be a no-brainer to go for one, but if you cant as is the case for most ITX builds, then the FE is the only suitable option.
The FE isn't necessarily going to work for an ITX build either though, especially in a sandwich-style case, since the rear fan is going to be completely choked due to the two-sided design. People on the SFF subreddit had major doubts about whether it'd be suitable for smaller ITX builds. Just have to wait for people to try it. There are also some build photos over there already of people fitting custom cards into pretty small ITX cases, such as the EVGA XC3 in an Ncase M1 and the MSI Ventus 3X in an NZXT H1, so unless you have something really tiny like a Velka case, there are other options.
 
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I wasn't even that interested in this launch but I would have bought an FE yesterday from the nVidia site if it were possible. I'm just going to wait it out now, can't be bothered checking their site and other sites every day for cards in stock. It is indeed a ****take that we have to put up with this nonsense every time they launch cards now. The industry needs heavier regulation, in my opinion, if your launch is essentially a paper one or not far off then you should have to announce it as such.
Yea bud, a proper **** show from NVidia and etailers gouging so much. I am glad I am waiting it out this time, as my impatience normally opens my wallet a little further. Stock levels appear to be a joke and agreed. NVidia could have said they had such limited stock
 
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People who don't learn from thier mistakes are doomed to repeat them. Nvidia and etailers and brick & mortar stores. All failed thier customers badly.
 
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Complete scam from start to finish from Nvidia, from the marketing to the Papere sale. I hope people have learned something about hype trains and buying on day 1...

Then the retailers hand in hand with NV gouged the **** out the FOMO/Fanboi crowd.
 
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The FE isn't necessarily going to work for an ITX build either though, especially in a sandwich-style case, since the rear fan is going to be completely choked due to the two-sided design. People on the SFF subreddit had major doubts about whether it'd be suitable for smaller ITX builds. Just have to wait for people to try it. There are also some build photos over there already of people fitting custom cards into pretty small ITX cases, such as the EVGA XC3 in an Ncase M1 and the MSI Ventus 3X in an NZXT H1, so unless you have something really tiny like a Velka case, there are other options.

Most ITX cases have the GPU in its normal slot, the ones with them behind are much more specialised in which case you would probably want to watercool one. But either way a triple slot isn't going to fit.

The FE should be fine in a case like a Nzxt H200i.
 
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I had a FE in my basket around 4pm, got to screen 3 and no PayPal. Was sold out by the time I got my card to pay. If you check eBay, the ones selling them for their confirmation email just after 4pm. Gutted :(
 
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Most ITX cases have the GPU in its normal slot, the ones with them behind are much more specialised in which case you would probably want to watercool one. But either way a triple slot isn't going to fit.

The FE should be fine in a case like a Nzxt H200i.
Well, no, that's not true at all. Air cooling is very much the standard even in really tiny ITX cases, though people do create some extremely impressive custom loops in them. The vast majority use air though, with CPU coolers like the Alpenfohn Blackridge and Cryorig C7 and standard graphics cards. The sandwich-style cases are hardly "specialsed" either. It's become pretty much the standard over the past few years for ITX cases, because it's just a plain better layout for optimising use of space. Even cheap ones from AliExpress, who've copied the trends of the more elaborate boutique cases. I don't even consider the H200i an "ITX case" really. It's bigger than a lot of mATX cases (even a few ATX ones), and certainly not in any way space-optimised. It has worse component compatibility in some respects than cases with less than half its internal volume. I mean, it's "fine" if you for some reason want to buy ITX parts but don't actually want a small build, but I don't understand why anybody would want that, personally. And it's certainly not where the ITX scene has been going in recent times.
 
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Well, no, that's not true at all. Air cooling is very much the standard even in really tiny ITX cases, though people do create some extremely impressive custom loops in them. The vast majority use air though, with CPU coolers like the Alpenfohn Blackridge and Cryorig C7 and standard graphics cards. The sandwich-style cases are hardly "specialsed" either. It's become pretty much the standard over the past few years for ITX cases, because it's just a plain better layout for optimising use of space. Even cheap ones from AliExpress, who've copied the trends of the more elaborate boutique cases. I don't even consider the H200i an "ITX case" really. It's bigger than a lot of mATX cases (even a few ATX ones), and certainly not in any way space-optimised. It has worse component compatibility in some respects than cases with less than half its internal volume. I mean, it's "fine" if you for some reason want to buy ITX parts but don't actually want a small build, but I don't understand why anybody would want that, personally. And it's certainly not where the ITX scene has been going in recent times.

I think you are talking about SFF (small form factor). ITX is just any case that is made to fit an ITX motherboard and no larger, and some can fit up to a 280mm AIO while still taking up less space than a MATX case. Its all personal and down to whatever each person has. Some wont even fit the length of a 3080, but many do.

The problem currently with the 3080s is that none of the AIB cards are dual slot, the thinnest is one of the EVGA ones that is 2.2 slot, and I wouldn't want to risk getting one and having to send it back if it doesn't fit.
 
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Gibbo made a statement about it and it Seemed OCUK was also affected by Bots.

"es I hinted thinking it would help, but when we put prices up as hinted everyone still was upset.
The problem is we expect big demand, but the demand was insane and also just like NVIDIA we had BOT scripts trying and placing orders too, thankfully we spotted many and they were deleted but then our site went down and in short made us blind, stock ETA's, pricing updates all got delayed and glitches. Hence people missing out on MSRP price etc."

Bigger problem than I thought maybe. And people should not go chasing after what are essentially "used" GPU's (second owner) on ebay etc and paying inflated prices. At end of day if there was no demand for this nonsense, there would be no use for bots in this case.

Many of us won't moan about NV pricing but I wouldn't pay much more than FE prices for even one straight from online retailer like OCUK, and only in that case if the performance etc warranted it, let alone some dodgy bugger on the likes of eBay :D.

Lets hope OCUK & NV sort this for future lauches
 
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Well they have 80% of the market, they know their yields and sales figures so Nvidia should definitely know. I've got no idea but when big US chains had a dozen cards per store in metropolitan areas that sounds like woeful undersupply.

If I was in charge of strategy at Nvidia of be hoping this was part of the plan otherwise I might be looking for a new job by now. Given their next level planning in other areas is hard to believe it was all a mistake.

Hype to the max which leads to -> high demand combine with -> short supply -> high prices. Cuts manufacturing costs and increases profit margins. Alternatively pushs everyone onto AIB's who bear the costs couple that with higher prices -> more profit. Its a win-win for everyone except the consumer.
 
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Hype to the max which leads to -> high demand combine with -> short supply -> high prices. Cuts manufacturing costs and increases profit margins. Alternatively pushs everyone onto AIB's who bear the costs couple that with higher prices -> more profit. Its a win-win for everyone except the consumer.

It's probably queue like the old adage about getting the politicians we deserve. Consumers keep voting for it! Makes you wonder if it will all come crashing down at some point?
 
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