Roy does ruffle some feathers, but i think hes pretty good at his job of PR for AMD. He can take a bit of trolling as well as give some back, as Greg (Geoff) found out one day.
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Roy does ruffle some feathers, but i think hes pretty good at his job of PR for AMD. He can take a bit of trolling as well as give some back, as Greg (Geoff) found out one day.
Look at my last couple of posts in this very thread. Not that hard to see the link and big letter quotes
Lol at that tweet. Notice he didn't reply anymore after me showing the stats of failures. He would rather post a bench than address the real issues.
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Let's not give the dons an easy job fellas please.
So Roy says there will be no DX12, instead new features will be added to current DX API's.
Microsoft says they will continue to develop DirectX.
So?
Roy does ruffle some feathers, but i think hes pretty good at his job of PR for AMD. He can take a bit of trolling as well as give some back, as Greg (Geoff) found out one day.
No doubt a lot of what he says are for PR reasons.
The only problem is, it needs to be truthful/convincing.
So Roy lied. He made stuff up and was told he was wrong by MS and as you see now, DX12 is coming.
Greg; still haven't guessed or asked me to answer your question
No I see it but don't care about consoles, so didn't reply.
Nothing mellowdramatic about it. The facts are there and you defend him like he is a personal friend, so it confuses me to your defence of him.
Anyways. I look forward to what MS have to say about DX12.
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*sighs* You don't care but you better Greg; without the mess Xbox1 dev tools are; there wouldn't be DX 12;
I'll answer anyways - DX 12 is direct copy of Mantle or is Mantle; why would companies still take Mantle now? Very simple logic; get used to it; dive into the tools themselves and learn how to get most out of it. What translates from PS4 to mantle.......Mantle to DX 12......etc centergy.
I called it from the beginning; humbug knows me from other forums. People scoff at the idea....again this is only possible because AMD owns consoles; having them made this possible.
Without Xbox; there is no DX 12.......you can thank MS for totally screwing up their tools; better yet; you can thank AMD for saving MS's Xbox1; and now creating DX 12.....
I'll answer anyways - DX 12 is direct copy of Mantle or is Mantle; why would companies still take Mantle now? Very simple logic; get used to it; dive into the tools themselves and learn how to get most out of it. What translates from PS4 to mantle.......Mantle to DX 12......etc centergy.
I called it from the beginning; humbug knows me from other forums. People scoff at the idea....again this is only possible because AMD owns consoles; having them made this possible.
Without Xbox; there is no DX 12.......you can thank MS for totally screwing up their tools; better yet; you can thank AMD for saving MS's Xbox1; and now creating DX 12.....
So I can run DX12 now on my NVidia cards if I can get Catalyst 14.3 to work with them.
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Any thoughts on this? Pretty far away.
8.1 Update 1, interesting.
Bottom line is still the same.
Mantle->private API/SDK->AMD drivers for some of their cards.
DirectX->public API/SDK->Nvidea, AMD, Intel, ... drivers.
OpenGL->specification->free to implement.
DirectX:
Uses The public SDK/API->private hardware vendor drivers.
DX would like to be "close to the metal", but it needs to be fairly general to support the hardware from several different vendors.
MS talks with the major gfx hardware vendors about new (hardware)features to decide on a new SDK/API/driver model.
DirectX 12 will try to be "closer to the metal", but it still needs to be very general to support hardware from several vendors.
Mantle:
An AMD API, supported only on some cards. Close to the metal? yes.
Close to AMD hardware architecture, very probably.
Likely to have a public SDK/API? possibly.
API/SDK likely to be adopted by other hardware vendors? Probably not, especially if it favors AMD hardware architecture( it will ).
Mantle->private API/SDK->AMD drivers for some of their cards.
DirectX->public API/SDK->Nvidea, AMD, Intel, ... drivers.
OpenGL->specification->free to implement.
DirectX:
Uses The public SDK/API->private hardware vendor drivers.
DX would like to be "close to the metal", but it needs to be fairly general to support the hardware from several different vendors.
MS talks with the major gfx hardware vendors about new (hardware)features to decide on a new SDK/API/driver model.
DirectX 12 will try to be "closer to the metal", but it still needs to be very general to support hardware from several vendors.
Mantle:
An AMD API, supported only on some cards. Close to the metal? yes.
Close to AMD hardware architecture, very probably.
Likely to have a public SDK/API? possibly.
API/SDK likely to be adopted by other hardware vendors? Probably not, especially if it favors AMD hardware architecture( it will ).