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DirectX 12
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Caporegime
Whatever the reason DX12 won't have massive uptake for a while if Windows 7 does not implement part of it,just as DX10 did not since it was tied to Vista.
Even DX11 was available on Vista too,meaning it had a decent marketshare when compared with the initial Windows 7 sales numbers,and look how long it is has taken for DX11 to become common??
DX11.2 is barely a blip on the radar since it is a Windows 8 exclusive.
On top of this many games are still DX9,like Skyrim for example and a lot of games only implement some DX11 features to a limited degree.
Windows 7 only got such decent sales at the beginning since it was dirt cheap(under £35) and even Windows 8 adoption(despite it not being as sucessful as MS wanted) was again down to it being cheap too at launch.
Windows 9 not only has to be a big upgrade over 7,but it needs to be well priced. The problem is if instead of a £50 to £70 OEM license,it becomes £40 a year license,then it fast gets expensive soon,and people will just stick to Windows 7.
MS already makes the most money of all software companies,and this is just another case of a company ripping off gamers,since no one apart from gamers really needs to be upgrading to the latest version of DX12.
Its bad enough with overpriced ROG and Fatal1ty branded meh,it seems PC gamers are getting increasing taken for being mugs,while at the same time consoles are the lead platforms for more and more games.
However,I expect XBox One owners need not worry - MS will just apply a free update!
Even though I am not enthusiast ATM at the state of Linux gaming,if Windows 9 turns out too expensive longterm,then it would be another push towards improving Linux gaming.
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if DX12 is running on XB1 and PC, does that mean better ports and PS4 will be getting a bit shafted? pc if i need to subscribe for windows 9 or it's any kind of subscription model i'll be sticking with dx11 and win7, i think they underestimate how hostile the PC community is to this type of thing, it really wouldn't go down well and if Linus et al tried to 'sell' it to us on youtube i imagine they'd lose people's respect rather quickly
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Tohrazer xbone running dx11 and pcs dx11.
Do you see any better ports ??
WONT HAPPEN
Do you see any better ports ??
WONT HAPPEN
Caporegime
Well the PS4 is a more powerful console,plus its probably running a lighter OS,so I think it might be OK ATM.
They have only been out for a relatively short time and ATM the XBox360 and PS3 are the lead development platforms for many games due to installed user base.
They have only been out for a relatively short time and ATM the XBox360 and PS3 are the lead development platforms for many games due to installed user base.
Soldato
Not sure I follow? Why will he be selling it?
I'm hoping DX 12 will be good, whichever OS it's on.
I think a sign of this is AMD (was it Huddy again?) saying that for Mantle 2 or 3 they'll be looking to include some of the features DX 12 has that Mantle currently doesn't. Must be doing something right if AMD want to copy it. Hopefully this can then continue and Microsoft can incorporate features from Mantle 1/2/3 back into DX 12.X.
I'm also wondering if perhaps DX 12 might also be easier to update if it's anything like Mantle. Maybe with competition and possibly quite a big change to DX 12 it will be easier for Microsoft to maintain and update. Whether DX12's connection with the XBOX ONE will prevent this though I'm not sure. Hopefully if DX12 is also going to be used for tablets and mobile computing Microsoft will realise that that hardware will also change and will update those platforms (and PC) even if XBOX ONE can't make use of all the updates. Maybe that's just wishful thinking...
Linus is a member of the tame press, he only exists to shill for the industry! rabble rabble
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I am looking forward to a new DX mainly to see what new eye candy it brings to the table. 
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Will only propel/accelerate Linux based OS' as a real choice.
Soldato
Surely a lack of games is what has been and will remain the issue with Linux being a real choice for gaming?
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They think moving to a subscription model will help against piracy. I think it will only encourage more as people dont want to pay for a subscription.
Caporegime
FTFY!!
The piracy line is just an excuse,to charge you more,and give you less rights over the software,ie,instead of owning it for ever,you only can rent it.
Caporegime
Depends on the usage, I used Ubuntu for my work desktop for over a year until they changed to the new lame GUI. For web browsing, email and office use it was great and much faster than Windows on that machine. Of course some things were done differently to Windows but no more so than OSX. (NB, had never used Linux before, installed it as a test and found myself choosing to boot that over Windows).
Soldato
Changing from the norm is not easy. Just take a look at how win 8 was initially snubbed by the 7 users, now they are embracing it as it is better for multi-threaded applications.
With SteamOS and linux even gaining some traction over the next couple of years it will start the movement more than it ever has in the past. Nvidia and AMD are taking it seriously, so should you.
Get Debian installed then
The thing that will turn most windows converts away from Linux is the involvement of using terminal commands.
Caporegime
Changing from the norm is not easy. Just take a look at how win 8 was initially snubbed by the 7 users, now they are embracing it as it is better for multi-threaded applications.
With SteamOS and linux even gaining some traction over the next couple of years it will start the movement more than it ever has in the past. Nvidia and AMD are taking it seriously, so should you.
If you get the AMD64 version it makes proper use of AMD CPU's, unlike Windows which is still primarily built on Intel's i386.
Caporegime
Emulated AmigaOS with Internet connectivity inside Windows ftw.
There used to be a crude OS that worked over the top of Workbench but can't for the life of me think what it was. It was a joy to work with though and Bulletin Boards FTW!
Such a shame Commodore had bad marketing, as they were a fantastic company.