DiRT 4
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Dirt 4 is geared up different to Dirt Rally. I for one enjoy it more than Dirt Rally mainly because it's way easier to drive. Ive tried Rally loads of times but I and my friends found it wasn't fun and there was a serve learning curve we didn't want to put in to enjoy. We got Dirt 4 knowing it was more arcade and it is.
That is not calibration. The ICC profiles were created on specific cards for specific monitors that could be newer or older than whoever decides to use those files. The circuitry is different to each display so the profiles don't match correctly.
You'll likely make things even worse than you already have.
I enjoyed the sensation of driving in Rally immediately and decided learning it a bit was worth the time. I'm not even a sim-head or anything and I was on a pad with no assists having loads of fun and actually getting decent (far from the fastest but far from crashing on every corner or driving incredibly slow). I even had some fun throttle-steering RWDs through corners and modern 4WDs were pretty forgiving IMO with a bit of focus.
I'm having more trouble with driving in 4 so far than in Rally because the simulation model is completely different and needs adjusting, especially lateral grip on gravel.
I agree driving style is different from Dirt Rally, Dirt 4 drive fast but be smooth with throttle and brake control on gravel stages especially the corners.
Spent some more time with it yesterday and did a couple of freeplay tournaments.
There's definitely a lot to like about this game but also quite a lot to dislike. I don't mind the graphics that much and there are some clear improvements over Rally:
-weather/time of day options
-fog is brutal and rain is finally properly distracting in cockpit view (there's a lot of it and looks great)
-cars get properly dirty now
-all the little touches like driving up to the marshal, drones on the stage, birds flying, crashed cars, more spectators etc.
-changes of weather within the stage (fog patches etc.)
-significantly improved damage
-a lot better repair system
-better menus
So far, my biggest gripe is the lack of content. Rallycross and Landrush are tacked on and underdeveloped but I don't really care about those. The main culprit is Your Stage. Only 5 locations would've been acceptable if had there been enough variety. They hyped this system to be the best thing ever but it's just not. I don't know where reviewers got those "hundreds of unique stages before you start to see repetition" from but after under an hour of driving in Australia I was seeing the exact same corner sections with identical spectators, cars and banners three or four times WITHIN a single stage. It looks utterly stupid and feels incredibly artificial.
Your Stage could've been great but it needs a lot more resources to work with. It might be good for online to spice things up a bit but as a sole system to base a rally game on it just fails miserably. I already have an impression that I've seen it all. Well, I'm not terribly disappointed because I didn't buy what they were selling for a second.
My second biggest gripe is that it doesn't give me the fizz like Rally did. It has its moments and maybe some of its aspects are more realistic but overall it really feels like a game made by a different developer.
I will keep playing it for what it is and I know the handling will be improved and tweaked (hopefully) so I'm not slating it yet.
Overall, I'm fairly disappointed but not to the point that I can't enjoy it.
There's definitely a lot to like about this game but also quite a lot to dislike. I don't mind the graphics that much and there are some clear improvements over Rally:
-weather/time of day options
-fog is brutal and rain is finally properly distracting in cockpit view (there's a lot of it and looks great)
-cars get properly dirty now
-all the little touches like driving up to the marshal, drones on the stage, birds flying, crashed cars, more spectators etc.
-changes of weather within the stage (fog patches etc.)
-significantly improved damage
-a lot better repair system
-better menus
So far, my biggest gripe is the lack of content. Rallycross and Landrush are tacked on and underdeveloped but I don't really care about those. The main culprit is Your Stage. Only 5 locations would've been acceptable if had there been enough variety. They hyped this system to be the best thing ever but it's just not. I don't know where reviewers got those "hundreds of unique stages before you start to see repetition" from but after under an hour of driving in Australia I was seeing the exact same corner sections with identical spectators, cars and banners three or four times WITHIN a single stage. It looks utterly stupid and feels incredibly artificial.
Your Stage could've been great but it needs a lot more resources to work with. It might be good for online to spice things up a bit but as a sole system to base a rally game on it just fails miserably. I already have an impression that I've seen it all. Well, I'm not terribly disappointed because I didn't buy what they were selling for a second.
My second biggest gripe is that it doesn't give me the fizz like Rally did. It has its moments and maybe some of its aspects are more realistic but overall it really feels like a game made by a different developer.
I will keep playing it for what it is and I know the handling will be improved and tweaked (hopefully) so I'm not slating it yet.
Overall, I'm fairly disappointed but not to the point that I can't enjoy it.
just the info i was looking for, nice one wellibob.
as a fan of dirt 2 and not of dirt rally i wanted it to sway to the arcade style
so i could just have fun with it.
thank you.
FPS is not everything l always lock my 980Ti GPU'S FPS TO 60 as my monitors refresh rate is only 60HRTz been doing that for ages. My Dirt 4 on PC runs at max settings and runs really smooth.
If your monitor is only is 60, 75, 100HRTz lock your GPU's FPS to match your monitors refresh rate, anything above that is a waste and also your GPU will run cooler.
Is anyone playing this with a G29 ok?. Dirt rally thinks my G29 is a controller again. I am sure its just the game as project cars and other games work great
should work fine as some of the devs play it on a g29. so maybe you got something wrong your end.
Don't forget less fan noise.
thrustmaster settings from some fast people in dirt.may help some of you who are struggling to get them dialed in.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=943644875
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=943644875
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I've been using them settings pretty much today along with the force settings turned up in the "device_defines" settings file.
Feels much better now with my t300.
Well worth a try.
What a difference they have made on my T500, l just stiffened the suspension all round a bit, l have now passed chitty chitty bang bang on the rally leaderboard with assists turned off.
I've sank a fair bit of time into this over the weekend, just chipping away at the career mode, no online yet. really getting to grips with it, i'm not the fastest but i'm not crashing.
Got to say even with every assist turned off its much much easier than Dirt Rally, I kinda hoped that Simulation mode would have been just a tweaked version of the driving physics from DR. its not far off but that knife edge of grip feeling when you are flat out is no longer there, just seems a little dulled, but actually having a sense for the weight of the car is a nice change.
Dont get me wrong though its still bloody fun threading your way through the right welsh forests.
Definitely noticing the "your stage" repetition a lot as well, nice concept, not the best implementation at the moment, I still would have preferred if they had stuck with the real life locations, I know its realisticly not going to happen but it would be nice if they could port across the original stages from Dirt Rally at a later date, I'd happily pay for it as a DLC, would love to try the new cars and different handling on the old stages.
Lastly, pacenotes... My biggest issue with the game at the moment, there is no happy medium, the note timing when things get technical, consecutive corners and such, or you are tanking it down a stright and theres a blind crest, makes pacenotes worthless, it either cant keep up, calls it too late to do anything about the ensueing carnage or just plain misses some corners out, its infuriating, i've tryed both sides of the spectrum and everything in between. It appears they have heard the community though and is on the list for things to work on.
Oh yeah Rallycross is genuinely fun, on the other hand Landrush is completely tonk... not going to waste any more time on that.
Got to say even with every assist turned off its much much easier than Dirt Rally, I kinda hoped that Simulation mode would have been just a tweaked version of the driving physics from DR. its not far off but that knife edge of grip feeling when you are flat out is no longer there, just seems a little dulled, but actually having a sense for the weight of the car is a nice change.
Dont get me wrong though its still bloody fun threading your way through the right welsh forests.
Definitely noticing the "your stage" repetition a lot as well, nice concept, not the best implementation at the moment, I still would have preferred if they had stuck with the real life locations, I know its realisticly not going to happen but it would be nice if they could port across the original stages from Dirt Rally at a later date, I'd happily pay for it as a DLC, would love to try the new cars and different handling on the old stages.
Lastly, pacenotes... My biggest issue with the game at the moment, there is no happy medium, the note timing when things get technical, consecutive corners and such, or you are tanking it down a stright and theres a blind crest, makes pacenotes worthless, it either cant keep up, calls it too late to do anything about the ensueing carnage or just plain misses some corners out, its infuriating, i've tryed both sides of the spectrum and everything in between. It appears they have heard the community though and is on the list for things to work on.
Oh yeah Rallycross is genuinely fun, on the other hand Landrush is completely tonk... not going to waste any more time on that.
I agree with everything including pace notes but regarding the handling, correcting what Rally did wrong will result in a different and somewhat easier handling model but, frankly, some stuff is now harder than before. It's pretty good, if they dial down the lateral grip slightly and make some tweaks, it'll be great.
I'm having fun so far but Your Stage is horrid, the stages are really bland and it uses really long sections repeating it up to four times in a single stage without changing the placement of any single object. The only thing that somewhat saves it is the weather. Codies seem to never be able to get the content up to scratch and it's hugely due to that bloody licensing. I'd pay for any sort of added variety to the stage selection as the drop in quality from Rally is immense. I can't see myself not getting bored with the system soon unless they add additional sections/blocks/elements and tweak the algorithms for some more variety. The stages in Rally were so good that I could go through them over and over again.
Guide to Slide - a video on Dirt 4's handling-
A video on how to get your cars to slide/drift in dirt 4-
http://steamcommunity.com/app/421020/discussions/0/1354868867725578640/
A video on how to get your cars to slide/drift in dirt 4-
http://steamcommunity.com/app/421020/discussions/0/1354868867725578640/
I must say the stages still look pretty cool visually, especially in cloudy weather/overcast/rain. I think many complaints about graphics are mainly due to oversaturated colours which make everything seem cartoony. In these weather conditions the game looks pretty realistic and pleasant as the colours are toned down, I even started to dig Michigan.
Now, if they only improved Your Stage, it'd be great.
The handling is slowly stopping being an issue for me, it needs tweaks but I can live with it and have fun.
Now, if they only improved Your Stage, it'd be great.
The handling is slowly stopping being an issue for me, it needs tweaks but I can live with it and have fun.