Discussion On The ATI Radeon 5*** Series Before They Have Been Released Thread

[Deleted member 66701]

60% performance increase? I'll wait for a 100% increase of higher me thinks...

That's never happened with a +1 gen card - that normally only happens if you skip a generation or go +1.5gen - i.e. 9700 to X800 (+1.5gen) or 8800gtx to 285gtx etc (+2gen)

 

[nbkpsycho]

LOL Loadsa, made my day that did, ROFL!

+2 lol

 

[zapgod]

the thing is i will be taking my parts abroad on the 25th of september, i hope the 5xxx cards are out then and i can turn my double 4890's. after how many days of purchase can i return them anyway?and can someone else give me anymore infromation about how to refund ?

 

[muon]

the thing is i will be taking my parts abroad on the 25th of september, i hope the 5xxx cards are out then and i can turn my double 4890's. after how many days of purchase can i return them anyway?and can someone else give me anymore infromation about how to refund ?

If you bought it online, 7 days from day of delivery to inform store that you are returning the item.

 

[LittleChimp]

I was going to buy but definently gonna hold fire, cant wait for these I just hope they arent crazy prices.

 

[Subtlesnake]

That's never happened with a +1 gen card - that normally only happens if you skip a generation or go +1.5gen - i.e. 9700 to X800 (+1.5gen) or 8800gtx to 285gtx etc (+2gen)

Yes, but wasn't the X800 XT PE roughly double the performance of 9800 Pro, and wasn't the 8800 GTX double the performance of the 7900 GTX?

From the perspective of the last generation, the 4870 offered (at least at high resolutions with AA) double the performance of the 3870. And given the 4870's relatively modest die size (256 mm²) they should have room to double up on the number of ALUs, while adding DirectX 11 support.

 

[titaniumx3]

Calm down people, keep in mind where this 60% "rumour" came from.


I recall, literally a week or so from the 4870/4850 release people were still thinking that ATI would deliver a 480 stream processor card, yet in the end it was 800 streams.

 

[kylew]

That's never happened with a +1 gen card - that normally only happens if you skip a generation or go +1.5gen - i.e. 9700 to X800 (+1.5gen) or 8800gtx to 285gtx etc (+2gen)

That's not true.

9800>X800 = about 2x performance

X800>X1800 = about 2x performance

X1800/X1900>2900 = about 2x performance

2900/3870>4870 = more than 2x performance

 

[Subtlesnake]

X800>X1800 = about 2x performance

Only in a few scenarios. For the most part, the X1800 didn't offer anywhere near double the performance of the X800 XT PE/X850 XT PE.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1867129,00.asp
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-x1800_3.html#sect1

1800/X1900>2900 = about 2x performance

Again, for most part the 2900 didn't offer double the performance of the X1900 XTX, though the X1800 XT might be a different story.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd-2900-games_3.html#sect1

This is just nitpicking though.

 

[titaniumx3]

X1950XTX to 8800GTX was almost 2x performance, but definitely not X1950XTX to HD2900XT; that was more like 1.6x

 

[kylew]

X1950XTX to 8800GTX was almost 2x performance, but definitely not X1950XTX to HD2900XT; that was more like 1.6x

I would have said X1950XT to 8800GTS 640 was a 2x jump, the 8800GTX was more.

That's why people raved about it so much.

 

[Final8y]

ATI Plans to Release Dual-Chip DirectX 11 Graphics Board Late in 2009.

ATI’s Hemlock Due Late in Q4 2009
ATI, graphics business unit of Advanced Micro Devices, plans to release its new flagship dual-chip graphics board sometime in Q4 2009, according to sources with knowledge of the matter. The new board is code-named Hemlock and it will replace the Radeon HD 4870 X2, which has been the top-of-the-range offering from ATI for over a year now.

At present there are no precise details about ATI Radeon HD 5870 X2 “Hemlock” graphics card available, but it can be expected that the product will feature 2GB of GDDR5 memory as well as numerous digital outputs, including DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI. Actual performance and other specifications will be determined a little closer to the release dates and will depend on competitive position of AMD’s graphics business unit.

At present ATI plans to release five DirectX 11 graphics processors aiming different market segments. All of presently known DX11-supporging graphics processing units (GPUs) from ATI will be made using 40nm fabrication process at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company; hence, the initial success of the new product line will depend on yields at the contract maker of semiconductors.

Based on the currently available information, ATI’s DirectX 11 family will consist of the following products:

* Hemlock - dual-chip flagship graphics solutions powered by two RV870 chips (originally known as R800);
* Cypress – single-chip high-performance graphics solution based on RV870 chip that will replace ATI Radeon HD 4890;
* Juniper – single chip performance graphics solution that will replace the remaining Radeon HD 4870 and 4850 graphics boards. It is highly likely that this one is based on the RV870 as well;
* Redwood – single chip mainstream graphics solution(s) based on RV830 chip that will replace both RV730 and RV740-based solutions;
* Cedar – single chip entry-level graphics solution(s) based on RV810 chip;

Starting from the DirectX 11 family, ATI started to use code-names instead of code-numbers for its graphics chips and boards. Even though ATI used to name internal designs of graphics cards, it continued to utilize code-numbers to describe the GPU cores. One of the advantage that numeric code-names have is clear attribution of a chip to the particular family and apparent positioning of the chip within the family.

ATI demonstrated its first DirectX 11 graphics processors at Computex Taipei 2009 in early June, however, it did not outline any actual timeframes for introduction. There are unofficial reports over the Internet that ATI may release its chip known under “RV870” and “Evergreen” code-names in September or October. However, there are also claims that ATI Radeon HD 5000-series is only due in November.

ATI/AMD did not comment on the news-story.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/...p_DirectX_11_Graphics_Board_Late_in_2009.html

 

[Dark_Angel]

Want to buy benchmarks...

This speculation is making me a sad panda... I want to see graphs damn it

 

[JediFragger]

I want to see graphs damn it

Are you insane? We've already established OcUK members can't handle numbers very well

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Are you insane? We've already established OcUK members can't handle numbers very well

 

[paininlife]

damn ,m goin to hav some crzy month ,i got 90210 season 2 starting from 8th sept , my final exams from 8th sept , i5 releasing , and nw Ati 5xxx
i had a crzy august as well ,passed my DSA theory test , got my SIA DS license , passed my exams and AMD 965 wz released

 

[tdream]

damn ,m goin to hav some crzy month ,i got 90210 season 2 starting from 8th sept , my final exams from 8th sept , i5 releasing , and nw Ati 5xxx
i had a crzy august as well ,passed my DSA theory test , got my SIA DS license , passed my exams and AMD 965 wz released

Don't forget Windows 7, CULV latops, Intel SSDs, power efficient AMD Athlons and District 9! It's enough to make your wallet cry

 

[paininlife]

^oh yeah thnx for reminder ,forgot abt District 9 ,watched it and its awesome (Y) , and for win7 i first need a gud system

 

[=VTA=MANFACE]

Strange that we really anticipate an ATI card launch for over three years,it's been mostly nV.

Well done ATI.

 

[Sayso]

Strange that we really anticipate an ATI card launch for over three years,it's been mostly nV.

Well done ATI.

yeh lets face it, last generation saw a big turnaround for ATI lets hope they can keep up the good work and keep the costs down..it can only help push Nvidea to do the same then we are all winners