Discussion On The ATI Radeon 5*** Series Before They Have Been Released Thread

Randell · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:13

I would choose a good single gpu solution over a similar performing but slightly cheaper dual chip solution - less hassle.

ThorpedoUK · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:14

On another note, you will definately notice the difference when DX11 hits home and judging by devs outlook on games for 2010, this wont be very long at all so I'm actually in two minds at the moment, if the price isnt too aggressive I'll be getting one.

Crysis 2 2010? Assassin Creed II? Hitman 5? Max Payne 3? BF Bad Company II

all of those have got to be definate DX11 contenders... not to mention others..

Shocky-FM · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:14

Randell said:
I would choose a good single gpu solution over a similar performing but slightly cheaper dual chip solution - less hassle.

Then why do you own 2x4850?... ahh nevermind. I agree though.

AgedIdiot · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:15

RavenXXX2 said:
you are not going to notice the difference in the majority of games.

If you have a half-decent card already ,True - unfortunately

Mr Paul · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:15

But it has DX11

Azza · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:16

Lets talk in here from now.

fornowagain · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:16

Looks strangely familiar?

RavenXXX2 · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:17

I'm still very positive about this card, looking at the vantage scores show the brute-force of this card, I know its only a synthetic bench but even so..I think ATI will have some major driver updates for this card that will make it shine.

Subtlesnake · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:18

Azza said:
How the **** can you be disappointed by the results?!?

It's a next generation card. Of course it's going to look good compared to what's out now. But considering it has double the theoretical power of the 4890, with more than double the transistors (and a much bigger die), seeing only 50% more performance isn't very impressive. If Nvidia doubles up the performance of the 285 (which is possible given a 512-bit bus) then it won't be pretty.

Look at it this way: had the 2900 XT launched 3 months before the 8800 GTX, we would have seen the some of the same reactions, concerning the performance increase over the X1950 XTX and 7900 GTX.

Was the 2900 XT a bad card? No. Did it deliver the expected performance increase over the previous generation? No. The 5870 is like 2009's 2900 XT: both doubled up transistor counts, both introduced a new version of DirectX, and both seem to offer a similar performance boost.

Of course if Nvidia fail to execute, it may be enough. There may not be an 8800 GTX this time around. But it doesn't mean I have to be impressed. The transition from the 3870 to the 4870 was impressive. This isn't.

ViRuS2k · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:19

Your also missing a awsome looking game MAFIA II

rubin1961 · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:21

I think i may stick with my 4890 for now and wait untill some DX11 games come out, by then the price will be have droped.

rick fowler · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:22

think i stick with a 295 or two

ThorpedoUK · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:23

ViRuS2k said:
Your also missing a awsome looking game MAFIA II

For cross platform it doesnt look bad, but remember it doesnt integrate DX10 let alone DX11.

straxusii · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:24

Stormar said:
lol ilike the way the use 2 x 5870 but only use gtx 285's to compare..lol talk about trying to make it look beter..lol

I love this

Squakingcow · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:30

Subtlesnake said:
It's a next generation card. Of course it's going to look good compared to what's out now. But considering it has double the theoretical power of the 4890, with more than double the transistors (and a much bigger die), seeing only 50% more performance isn't very impressive. If Nvidia doubles up the performance of the 285 (which is possible given a 512-bit bus) then it won't be pretty.

Look at it this way: had the 2900 XT launched 3 months before the 8800 GTX, we would have seen the some of the same reactions, concerning the performance increase over the X1950 XTX and 7900 GTX.

Was the 2900 XT a bad card? No. Did it deliver the expected performance increase over the previous generation? No. The 5870 is like 2009's 2900 XT: both doubled up transistor counts, both introduced a new version of DirectX, and both seem to offer a similar performance boost.

Of course if Nvidia fail to execute, it may be enough. There may not be an 8800 GTX this time around. But it doesn't mean I have to be impressed. The transition from the 3870 to the 4870 was impressive. This isn't.

Even the 8800gtx got beaten in quite a number of games/benchmarks by the 7950GX2 on launch (until nVidia stopped supporting the 7950GX2 properly).

Also worth noting that there are possibly a few performance sapping gremlins in the driver department, since the 5870 is getting beaten by the 4870X2. Yet the 5870 is essentially an overclocked, single core 4870X2 (meaning it should have none of the crossfire overheads that the 4870X2 suffers).

Rimsy · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:34

Hmm.. better than i was expecting in all honesty - seems like they have a good card on their hands.

Frame352 · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:35

lol "Official" thread pulled?

gareth170 · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:35

im guessing the 5850 will be similar performance to 2 4850, cos looking at these benchmarks for the 5870 its slighty fast than the 4870x2

Ludomudo · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:36

damn right they are good cards. And if someone says otherwise, its probably a guy with NVIDIA 285 or 295 under the hood.
Wheres the BUY button OCUK? i want one!>

Perfect_Chaos · 22 Sep 2009 at 23:36

So is there any real difference between having 2 5870's or an X2? except for using a bit less power?