Distasteful vegan TV ad

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Out of interest, you're not as bothered if someone buys their bacon from Waitrose? I get that they are still slaughtered, but a big factor seems to be your dislike of factory farmed.

Do you not think its almost worse killing supposedly "happy" animals? They still end up in the same place.

 
Remember people, vegan / vegetarian is a privilege not a right! Therefore you are in as very good position in life to have that First World choice :D

In poorer areas of the world, they eat what they catch. If not, then they go hungry and probably die.

Yea all those poor people dining on steaks and foie gras, they more likely eat the cheapest foods, like beans, legumes, rice etc.
 
If you have seen what they're trying to do with Lab Grown meat, you wouldn't touch it was someone else's bargepole

It would be akin to Cannibalism, don't trust it, don't touch it.

Some fancy chef couldn't tell the difference, because its meat, as in the same product.

 
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The only solution I personally see, as touched a few times, is lab grown meat if it matches taste texture and nutrients, that’s my hope. I’d rather Bill Gates etc funded that than Beyond Meat etc, the former is more likely to be accepted, in my opinion anyway.

Lab grown meat can't come soon enough.
When it beats farming on price point a revolution will begin. And eventually we will look back on intensive farming like we look back on slavery.

That's my view.

It will take time. But it will come
 
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Lab grown meat can't come soon enough.
When it beats farming on price point a revolution will begin. And eventually we will look back on intensive farming like we look back on slavery.

That's my view.

It will take time. But it will come
it has no fat though, I shouldn't have to spell out why this is bad but I get the impression I'm going to have to
 
Do you not think its almost worse killing supposedly "happy" animals? They still end up in the same place.
Okay, but given how much you complain about how they're looked after, you then release the revelation that THAT is the better way for it to be in your opinion? Someone that is claiming to be an animal lover now says it's better they're treated badly so that they look forward to the end of it all?!

I was kinda interested in this discussion, but you've just lost a lot of credibility in my eyes. I guess you're simply looking to argue and troll...

Given this, I think I'll just check out now and go back to my bacon sandwich.
 
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it has no fat though, I shouldn't have to spell out why this is bad but I get the impression I'm going to have to
I am a meat eater but consider myself "fairly" clued in but I am interested . there are plenty of ways to get any necessary fat intakes arnt there? it doesn't have to be animal fat.

so hypothetically I could get my lab grown bacon style meat and fry in sunflower oil for instance if I so wanted?

personally I have zero concerns about not having enough fat in my diet with or without fat in my meat!
 
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Okay, but given how much you complain about how they're looked after, you then release the revelation that THAT is the better way for it to be in your opinion? Someone that is claiming to be an animal lover now says it's better they're treated badly so that they look forward to the end of it all?!

I was kinda interested in this discussion, but you've just lost a lot of credibility in my eyes. I guess you're simply looking to argue and troll...

Given this, I think I'll just check out now and go back to my bacon sandwich.

Did I say that? No. I'm not for "bigger cages" or better welfare im for animal rights, the right not to be stabbed in the neck for a sandwhich, theres not a compromise to be made in that.

Im looking to troll? but youre back to your bacon sandwich? What an intelligent response....
 
It was an analogy to animals dying in crop farming.

Well its a really poor analogy. Car accidents vs intentional killings...

Most animals are factory farmed, factory farms are hell for animals, don't you agree? And then after that hell, they have to endure a slaughterhouse.

So il ask again, did you watch the documentary I posted?

If you can repost the link I'll have a look - I have tried to locate it using search but you have posted a LOT of posts with a LOT of links so its hard to establish the one you are talking about.

Again what control do I have over peoples choices? I can only try to show people what they're paying for, and you don't even want to see that.

Who said I didn't want to see it? I cant recall ever "not wanting to see it".
 
Do you not think its almost worse killing supposedly "happy" animals? They still end up in the same place.


Lets be perfectly blunt here pigs would not even exist unless it was for consumption. Apart from a couple of hundred worldwide for preservation.

Then you need to ask is it better to have a life albeit a short one rather than not even exist at all?
 
I am a meat eater but consider myself "fairly" clued in but I am interested . there are plenty of ways to get any necessary fat intakes arnt there? it doesn't have to be animal fat.

so hypothetically I could get my lab grown bacon style meat and fry in sunflower oil for instance if I so wanted?

personally I have zero concerns about not having enough fat in my diet with or without fat in my meat!
seed oils are incredibly bad for you and the omega 6:3 ratio of sunflower is 40:1 (its even worse for cheaper "vegetable" oils), the grass fed beef we buy is 3:1 its just absolutely no contest when it comes to vegetable oils to meat fats

I've gone from a mostly plant based diet with sunflower/olive oil to carnivore, my blood test results went from 1.96 triglycerides to 0.98, HDL is higher (so my Trig:HDL ratio is greatly improved), ApoB is lower, my blood pressure is loads lower, it is like ridiculous how much healthier I am on meat
 
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