Distasteful vegan TV ad

[Rroff]

Have a guess how sick piglets are killed in the UK?, Il just tell you, they smash them into the floor. Not much better than using a sledgehammer.

I can't say as to the realities of what happens on pig farms day to day, I wouldn't be surprised to find some flouting the regulations, etc., but it is only a method which is supposed to be used in an emergency situation (i.e. where the piglet is suffering) and by someone trained in the procedure not just any old farm hand on any old pig.

Not buying meat is even cheaper, most vegan foods are the cheapest available, pulses, pasta, bread, vegetables. It's only when you factor in meat replacements the costs start to add up.

Personally I find a lot of vegetables utterly unappetising, to the point some make me feel revolted physically* (which I can understand if some have that reaction to eating meat knowing where it comes from). Can't say I'm happy eating meat, none the less the quality is inferior to what it could be of something which was synthesised, but in reality there are poor substitutes for it so far and I'd struggle to be able to eat healthy without.

* To an extent some people can't understand at all - for example parsnips the look, smell, taste and texture in any form I find gag response inducing yet I'm perfectly fine with horseradish as a condiment.

 

[Johno please?]

I can't say as to the realities of what happens on pig farms day to day, I wouldn't be surprised to find some flouting the regulations, etc., but it is only a method which is supposed to be used in an emergency situation (i.e. where the piglet is suffering) and by someone trained in the procedure not just any old farm hand on any old pig.

These regulations really mean nothing to the animals, I just think when do we stop giving these people the benefit of the doubt, every time an activist puts cameras in these places its just abuse and neglect every time.

Sure theres some fancy organic farms that let the pigs outside, but they still all end up in the same place.

 

[Junglist]

I want to kick a dog, I like it, if you don't want to kick dogs that's fine but don't tell me what I can and cant do.

How do you "ethically" chop an animals head off?

See what youre paying for - https://www.landofhopeandglory.org/

See.... some vegans are insufferable and so bloody hollier than thou.

What benefit to your body would kicking a dog have? If I go home now and drop kick my dog or volley her into the wall am I suddenly going to be fully of energy and have all of my nutrition from giving her one hell of a kick?

No. You absolute melon.

You do it with one good clean swing. When I was cutting chicken heads of with a machette it was all about doing it so it comes off cleanly.

So it's an option that you choose out of preference, not that it's an option that isn't available to you?

Well I mean an option could also be to go out in the garden and ingest all the soil. But correct. My preference is to eat meat. Knowing that is my preference I try and do it in a way that I am comfortable with.

Right. Home time. I was going to cook dinner for the family but Jono gave me a brilliant idea of just kicking some dogs for the evening

 

[adidan]

If we didn't eat meat we would never have evolved to be anything more than prey.

All this talk is putting me in the mood for a lovely steak and ale pie.

 

[robj20]

Well I eat meat, but would you eat it if you had to kill it yourself?

Absolutely and I have done many times.

 

[inogen]

lets be honest.......... if you were in a plane crash and there was zero food and you had to wait a month for rescue..... push comes to shove you would probably eat the dead passengers if it would keep you alive........

If i am wrong however, then no offence meant................................. it just means more for me

push comes to shove and I’m eyeing up other survivors

 

[robfosters]

Every dinner I have has meat in it. I cannot face a meal without meat, it just doesn’t feel right. Besides, I have my own personal reasons for needing meat.

 

[robfosters]

push comes to shove and I’m eyeing up other survivors

Don’t look at me, more meat on a sparrow

 

[Rroff]

These regulations really mean nothing to the animals, I just think when do we stop giving these people the benefit of the doubt, every time an activist puts cameras in these places its just abuse and neglect every time.

Sure theres some fancy organic farms that let the pigs outside, but they still all end up in the same place.

Or these activists hunt out the places which aren't abiding by the regulations.

I'm not under any delusions, it is something I'm up against every day in general at work, as there are far too many people who see rules and regulations as a guide at best and ignore them when they feel like it rather than understand the reason and spirit for these regulations and abide by them and I can't speak for pig farming as my experience comes from other types but there are plenty of farms which operate mostly to good standards.

 

[Johno please?]

See.... some vegans are insufferable and so bloody hollier than thou.

What benefit to your body would kicking a dog have? If I go home now and drop kick my dog or volley her into the wall am I suddenly going to be fully of energy and have all of my nutrition from giving her one hell of a kick?

No. You absolute melon.

You do it with one good clean swing. When I was cutting chicken heads of with a machette it was all about doing it so it comes off cleanly.

Yea so insufferable being against animal abuse isn't it

You don't need to kill animals to be healthy is my point.

 

[robj20]

Yea so insufferable being against animal abuse isn't it

You don't need to kill animals to be healthy is my point.

I think the bit that bothers most is the trying to make it everyone has to feel the same way as you.
You want to be vegan, that's great.
Others want to eat meat. You don't need to try and push it onto others.

 

[Johno please?]

Or these activists hunt out the places which aren't abiding by the regulations.

I'm not under any delusions, it is something I'm up against every day in general at work, as there are far too many people who see rules and regulations as a guide at best and ignore them when they feel like it rather than understand the reason and spirit for these regulations and abide by them and I can't speak for pig farming as my experience comes from other types but there are plenty of farms which operate mostly to good standards.

Well watch the documentary I posted then, see for yourself.

I was at this farm myself, if the regulations were anything other than a joke it would have been shut down, but it wasnt.

Alice Brough who was a pig vet in the industry, went vegan due to the things she witnessed.

Animal rights activists protest at 'brutal' pig farm

Animal Justice Project campaigners gathered at Bickmarsh Hall farm in Warwickshire

www.coventrytelegraph.net

 

[Crizzy]

Well I mean an option could also be to go out in the garden and ingest all the soil. But correct. My preference is to eat meat.

Come on, It's a bit silly to say an option would be to start eating soil, but I think you know that

My comment was intended to highlight that for you eating meat IS an option, but you choose not to out of preference.

 

[Johno please?]

I think the bit that bothers most is the trying to make it everyone has to feel the same way as you.
You want to be vegan, that's great.
Others want to eat meat. You don't need to try and push it onto others.

Who made the thread?

I cant make anyone do anything, just highlighting things that people probably won't know. Due to the meat, dairy and egg industries way of keeping things hidden.

How quiet would you want people to be if you were being put into a gas chamber?

 

[Crizzy]

If we didn't eat meat we would never have evolved to be anything more than prey.

All this talk is putting me in the mood for a lovely steak and ale pie.

What an odd perspective, just because we've always done something in the past doesn't mean we should continue to do so if we don't have to.

 

[Crizzy]

I think the bit that bothers most is the trying to make it everyone has to feel the same way as you.
You want to be vegan, that's great.
Others want to eat meat. You don't need to try and push it onto others.

So we're not supposed to discuss it? Would've been a short thread.

 

[robfosters]

Who made the thread?

I cant make anyone do anything, just highlighting things that people probably won't know. Due to the meat, dairy and egg industries excellent propaganda.

How quiet would you want people to be if you were being put into a gas chamber?

If some people don’t want to know, that’s their right. It’s not your place to constantly force this graphic evidence on them.

 

[Johno please?]

If some people don’t want to know, that’s their right. It’s not your place to constantly force this graphic evidence on them.

lol, can I force people to click links? If people want to remain in the dark thats up to them.

 

[Crizzy]

If some people don’t want to know, that’s their right. It’s not your place to constantly force this graphic evidence on them.

I disagree, people should have an understanding of where their food comes from, then they can make up their own minds?

 

[sigma]

Absolutely. I’ve never had to butcher an animal but I’ve given myself a rough idea how through YouTube etc just in case I ever found myself in a situation where I had to, however unlikely that would be.

Was that in between the videos/Google searches about how to kill people and dispose of bodies?