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Poll: Do you think AMD will be able to compete with Nvidia again during the next few years?
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Caporegime
Must be alternative universe. I know they have quite a few lower end cards overstocked, but nothing Nvidia wouldn't be able to shift with their abilities. Though even if they fail to get rid of them and write them off, that's a blip in one quarter or maybe two, and it should be dwarfed by their other sales.
Soldato
Weird, isn't it. July feels slap bang in the middle of the year, so you instinctively think Q2, but since it's month 7 it's actually the first month of Q3 and H2.
What is Nvidia's answer to a £300-350 Vega card?
What is Nvidia's answer to a £170 RX570? or a sub £200 RX580. Even older architecture than Vega.
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Its funny how if a company isn't competing at the bleeding edge then they are considered not to be competing. Something like a 1080ti or 2080 ti in terms of sales doesn't compete with mid or lower range offerings in terms of sheer numbers sold.
It's got nothing to do with the bleeding edge.
AMD's mid-range offerings are extremely power hungry, and harder to cool. The excessive amount of power they need doesn't translate to "better than nVidia at every price point"... far from it. Which is a ridiculous thing to say, because "better" entirely depends on your criteria.
Unfortunately the fanboys use whatever criteria shows the object of their affections in the best light at the time, and are prone to making silly statements such as the above.
My criteria haven't changed because I couldn't give a flying toss about either company; I just want an efficient, quiet, value for money mid-range card. And Polaris is a bust by those measures.
Caporegime
Just look at how much power the re-released 480 sucks, its more than the 1080 
If an extra 40 watts power use is extremely important to you then you must live a very interesting life. Do you turn the gas off when you turn your toast over?
I'm sure jigger will attempt to spin that as a positive, somehowJust look at how much power the re-released 480 sucks, its more than the 1080
Just look at how much power the re-released 480 sucks, its more than the 1080
Now, now let's not get back on the topic of sucking power.
I'm sure jigger will attempt to spin that as a positive, somehow
It is good for the winter - more of these and you won't need central heating in the room
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in all seriousness i have a work college; who complains that his 1080 only has 1 power connector; as if it had two he could over clock it more. its limited in terms of power available to the core etc.
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Yeah Nvidia hamstrings most of its line up. The GTX1080 is at least 50 watts slower than it should be. Get him a nice 8 core Intel chip.
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he can get his own sodding 8 core those things are expensive!
, im talking from a personal point of view sorry not in a work capacity. already have 8 cores at work 
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nVIDIA messing up would help AMD, but AMD can help themselves if they have consistency and what they're doing and little more involvement with the game devs.
For instance R290/X were perceived bad at launch due to their cooler, which was quite loud and made the cards throttle down. Fury X was "the overclocker's dream" while the Vega cards were pushed far beyond their optimal frequencies and voltage, for minimal gains, just to be on a level perceived ok by AMD - and these are just a few examples.
Then you have the software side where they have shown some nice stuff such AI on the GPU even as far as HD48xx series, plus low level APIs. I get around 20% increase, in game, on an overclocked R290 between DX11 and DX12 in Hitman on 5760x1080 (3x 1080p) with almost all settings turned up (just shadow res on medium instead of high and SS on 1.0)! I'd say that's an incredible huge gain! However, their push with devs in general for implementing such APIs that would be extremely beneficial for their products is ... mediocre at best even though they have the consoles market on their side.
Sadly AMD stand is: hey, we've got this nice stuff, it's free to implement, have fun using it! They forget developers are not mainly driven by passion, but by money and time constrains! When AMD will decide to actually do something about their perceived place in the market (by the consumers), then they can help themselves climb up from the hole they've dug themselves in.
AMD give you better 2D and 3D image quality.
Intel sucked a lot of AMD's money through illegal business practices.
nvidia sucked some of AMD's money through illegal business practices.