Motivate them how? they've won everything.
"it's easy to get to the top, it's harder to stay there"
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Motivate them how? they've won everything.
"it's easy to get to the top, it's harder to stay there"
Oh well, nevermind then. Let's ship all the good players out and get in people who have never won anything. That'll work...
Guardiola at Bayern is doing a fairly good job this season...
Oh well, nevermind then. Let's ship all the good players out and get in people who have never won anything. That'll work...
They'll have the bit between their teeth yeah, absolutely!!
There's no competition in the league. Hows it that even comparable? They've spent huge sums of money and bought well, they have Beckenbaur as director, so different it's ridiculous.
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Moyes is basically a less arrogant version of Hodgson and has taken United backwards by forcing an archaic brand of football on players that are far more capable than those he's previously managed.
The best managers adapt to the clubs they manage and the players they have, there hasn't been a single hint all season that he's capable of doing that.
They haven't gone from winning the league to 7th because the players aren't good enough, they've gone from winning the league to 7th because Moyes isn't up to the job.
The best managers adapt to the clubs they manage and the players they have, there hasn't been a single hint all season that he's capable of doing that.
They haven't gone from winning the league to 7th because the players aren't good enough, they've gone from winning the league to 7th because Moyes isn't up to the job.
United's squad is better than Chelsea and City? Waaaa? Lol
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You seem to be able to understand posts like Moyes understands management, you're not related are you?
How about you give us an answer?
Pretty much spot on. Moyes only saving grace up until recently was that he wasn't coming out with small time comments like Hodgson. But to first say that Liverpool are favourites in a match at OT and then claim that Utd aspire to be like City were alarming.
Earlier today Robbo said it would be fantastic for Utd to be back in the top 4 next season. Just how much and how quickly expectations of Utd fans have dropped is so telling as to just how poor Utd have been this season.
Again, your forgetting about the players that actually go out and 'play' the game? Moyes doesn't go onto the pitch. It's so crazy talking to some of you lads i swear. Not sure how much i can take of it anymore..
I'm actually banging my head against a wall. I think for my own mental health i will abstain from future discussions like this.He needs to given more than a flipping season to sort stuff out, that's all i'll finish with.
Conversation has gone on a bit but then its not 'stricly true' for Spurs either, as they've done worse and not strengthened
I know, i know, it was just in general mate. I'm just in the firm camp of people who believe that people who have worked for their chance, should be given sufficient time to prove themselves. Fergie nearly got United relegated 4 years after he took charge was it? Something like that anyway, oh how the history could have been different had they not won that cup and basically saved Fergie's job.
City and Chelsea have been grossly mis managed with millions of pounds invested with no direction. United have won most things in the past and are now in a transitional period. The players should be able to perform due to the nature of what they've been through with Fergie, but they aren't. It's the end of the road for the a lot of them and they know it. I do fancy them to come out for Bayern though, naturally. Would be good gift to the fans for a poor season. Hope they do it. At the end of the day though, i couldn't give rat's arse about who wins what, i care about fair and good football. It's not fair and it's not good how the media and fans are treating Moyes..
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Spot on!
With Moyes at the helm, scraping into the top 4 is the best we're going to get it seems.
Again, your forgetting about the players that actually go out and 'play' the game? Moyes doesn't go onto the pitch. It's so crazy talking to some of you lads i swear. Not sure how much i can take of it anymore..
He needs to given more than a flipping season to sort stuff out, that's all i'll finish with.
Your assertion that all of the top players should be sold because they don't like/play for the manager is pretty bizarre to say the least. This is a guy who, in a realistic scenario, wouldn't have even been called to interview with his CV, or even close.
As people have said, any good manager can adapt to the players. Moyes can seemingly do nothing right so far. Have you got any solid evidence to say that will change, instead of just saying he needs time? A whole season and 2 transfer windows (where he's made basically zero progress) isn't a bad starting point, and he's fluffed it all so far.
We know he can assemble a decent side that are hard to beat, on a reasonably low budget. Surely you can see that this doesn't automatically mean that if he's put in charge of a massive club with a massive budget that everything will scale from there and he'll be great? That's not really ever how it works.
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United have got RvP, Mata, Rooney, Kagawa, Carrick and Screech in their team and those six players are more than capable of getting United in to the Champions League as long as they're played to their strengths, Moyes is not doing that.
Einstein said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Their performance against Fulham is one of the most embarrassing displays of management I've ever seen. Surely it shouldn't take any manager more than 10 crosses to realise a team of giants was going to dominate a team of dwarfs, but 100?
I would've sent him back to Everton within the first week under the distance selling regulations because he's clearly not the product that was advertised.
Einstein said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Their performance against Fulham is one of the most embarrassing displays of management I've ever seen. Surely it shouldn't take any manager more than 10 crosses to realise a team of giants was going to dominate a team of dwarfs, but 100?
I would've sent him back to Everton within the first week under the distance selling regulations because he's clearly not the product that was advertised.
Jeez, i was being facetious, yeah yeah do that...just get rid of all the good players. lol
What about those good players that aren't arsed anymore and care about other things in life now? What about them?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26704856
I thought of you when i read this..
Like Rio for example? We should get rid of him, yes.
I'm not denying that work needs doing to the squad, it does, but Moyes isn't getting anything out of the squad so far. A better manager would be, for sure.
I've seen this pop a few times on this forum now. My lord!! I couldn't think of worse thing to say...It's not applicable at all. Sport is just percentages. That saying is talking about a definitive structures in the world..
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I saw the post about 100 crosses, then I realised:
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sh...nt+holt+username_the+running+man#post24266039
Then I scrolled down a bit and stumbled into
And I came across all confused for a minute.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sh...nt+holt+username_the+running+man#post24266039
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