Do you disagree with me?
Poll: Does David Moyes need to go? **Spoilers**
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Do you disagree with me?
About what?
I've not been reading it tbh, it just looks like people arguing with each other not knowing who each other support
Did my post infer I disagreed with you?
True, all great teams playing utterly ****e football and ignoring their teams strengths.
Rooney and RVP passing to each other 8 times in the last two games (four of those coming at kick off) seems like some ****ing amazing rearrangement of a squad.
About what?
I've not been reading it tbh, it just looks like people arguing with each other not knowing who each other support
Did my post infer I disagreed with you?
It implied that it was something which Liverpool and Leeds fans should not be discussing.
Surely anybody with a valid point to make should be able to make it, which is why I asked whether you disagreed with me.
Discuss it all you want, I don't care either way
I was pointing out that Liverpool and Leeds fans are not really the best to get a measured response from when discussing Man Utd's best interests.
The fact that you were arguing about Man Utd thinking the other one supported them was getting boring.
As a leeds fan looking in do you think Liverpool should have kept with Hodgepodge longer?
Yes, just look how every team with a manager appointed at a similar time to Moyes is playing horribly too... Oh wait.
What a ridiculous statement. Implying that you need 11 of your own players in order to be able to manage a team properly. Ludicrous.
Reading through your posts, I don't think even you know what your point is, so I'm not sure what you expect from us.
Oh dear.
Discuss it all you want, I don't care either way
I was pointing out that Liverpool and Leeds fans are not really the best to get a measured response from when discussing Man Utd's best interests.
The fact that you were arguing about Man Utd thinking the other one supported them was getting boring.
Ah right - Nah, I knew that he didn't. If you look in his profile the first thing it says is Leeds Utd
Trusty - there are different ways to look at this. Yes, a manager ought to be given time, but he needs to do something to show that things will become better with time. Moyes has done literally nothing to show that so far in terms of performances. Yes, he's made one good signing and brought one class player through from the academy, but so far he has misused Mata and underplayed Januzaj. Again, comparing him to Brendan Rodgers this time last year, BR had signed Coutinho and Sturridge for less than the cost of Fellaini, and had the team playing some very very good football.
United did not play good football under SAF for the last couple of years of his career, but their style of play has actually regressed under Moyes. Their confidence is shot, their tactics are non-existent, and they look like they've lost any understanding of how to win a football match. That is not progress, so on what grounds should Moyes be given time?
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I think that he is a good manager but it seems like he is just out of his depth, I would keep him till the end of season and evaluate his season performance as a whole then.
You just say he needs time without any kind of qualification of your statements whatsoever. There's plenty of proof that a manager can come in and quickly get a squad playing better football, not just in the top leagues, but in the lower leagues too.
I bet there are plenty of managers who could get our current squad performing better than they are at the moment. And they could likely sign some quality players who don't cost the earth who would have helped improve the midfield etc, too.
That's not to say it's beyond Moyes, but at the moment he's looking lost at sea, to say the least.
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Lol, your right there, i spent all my time day dreaming about football..
It was the fact that you were typing you and your referring to Trusty and Man Utd that was confusing
Mainly because you have just labelled most of the forum as not knowing about football because we post on a computer forum. Where as you've played it and watched it so are some kind of expert all of a sudden
Your grammar is also shocking.
There's 2 reasons
my grammer is poor i know, it's because i've typing out so much stuff...i can't be chewed to check every 2 seconds..What managers are these though? Who's had more credibility managing in the PL?
So it had to be a PL manager? Really? Why?
That's beside the point anyway, do you think he's the best we could have got then? Do you think his tactical approach so far is befitting of a man in his position?
Indeed!
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Make a list of all managers current and not that have WON something while managing in the premier league, they are all more credible than Moyes. Managing in the premier league was not a requirement of the job. There are 20 managers in the premier league, in fact how many have their been this season, 25 or so, maybe soon to be a couple more than that, does being a manager in this league for any length of time make you a good manager, or capable of winning things?
If winning things is irrelevant, then why not chose Harry, or McCarthy, plenty of managers have had many years in the premier league, there is more to it than that. UTd were looking for a manager WHO COULD WIN THINGS, Moyes has zero credibility because he's had longer as a manager than anyone else in the league without winning anything........ he is the most proven incapable of winning manager in the league. That makes him one of the least sensible choices possible.
Did Mourinho's lack of PL, and for that matter simply managing experience hurt Chelsea? Did Ancelloti's lack of PL experience hurt him.... rinse repeat for dozens of managers over the years.
If winning things is irrelevant, then why not chose Harry, or McCarthy, plenty of managers have had many years in the premier league, there is more to it than that. UTd were looking for a manager WHO COULD WIN THINGS, Moyes has zero credibility because he's had longer as a manager than anyone else in the league without winning anything........ he is the most proven incapable of winning manager in the league. That makes him one of the least sensible choices possible.
Did Mourinho's lack of PL, and for that matter simply managing experience hurt Chelsea? Did Ancelloti's lack of PL experience hurt him.... rinse repeat for dozens of managers over the years.
A manager I'd prefer? For the record I don't know about contract situations, buying out of contracts and all this stuff regarding the managers in question. But:
Klopp
Mourinho (originally)
Ancelotti
Simeone
Then there's people with a more proven track record like Van Gaal, De Boer, etc. And of course people who, with massive funding, could make their footballing philosophy something really special.
Instead we've got someone who at all costs doesn't want to lose and can't seem to get players passing the ball well at all. I'm not saying that is entirely Moyes' fault, it's worked well enough at Everton, but he's not at Everton now.
As for crosses, there's nothing wrong with crosses, just in moderation/mixed in with other things.
Edit: And Everton did a lot better than this, so it's really quite baffling.
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we should definitely have a OcUK football match, sort the men from the boys
Whoever wins knows more about football!
Might give Cosimo a chance to give himself some credibility.
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Seriously, can you void a contract if you can prove the guy is deranged?
Our luck will change, there's no doubt?!?
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