I had my first account on here since 2002 - probably hovering at about 1900 posts - I prefer to read than to post - though I have know idea how people percieve me, though the few of you who have met me in real life were massively suprised.
Does how you are personally perceived affect how your threads/posts are seen?
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Interesting thread - Im not really bothered what people think about me on the Internet you know, but other people do wind me up and some people i think are really cool - Im not really quick to judge people i usually read a lot of there posts before i make up wheather i dislike them or not. and for the record i dont really dislike any of you after all posting on a computer hardware forum isn't going to mean your some scally whos hitting people for doing nothing!
No. I am who I am, and people can perceive me how they like. I don't expect to be liked by everyone.Gilly said:
Nor, for that matter, do I judge others, other than by what they say. There are people with whom I fundamentally disagree on many things, but that doesn't mean I necessarily dislike them, or that I necessarily like people that I agree with. I tend to respect people that have a clear opinion, and can justify and support that opinion, even if I disagree with them .... but "respect" and "like", again, don't necessarily go hand in hand.
But while I don't post according to how I'm "personally perceived", I do adjust posting style according to the reaction it's likely to provoke. This comes from experience. In the past, when I've been fully open, I've been accused of either lying or showing off, and have ended up leaving forums as a result. So now, there are certain areas I either won't go into at all, or will only make guarded references to. As a result, I now get accused of "teasing", or being "pretentious", of having a "secret agent lifestyle" (yeah, that was what someone said) or, ironically, of showing off because I won't give details on many things.
I post on forums because I enjoy doing it. That enjoyment is heavily curtailed because I have to be careful what I say, and is curtailed even further when people STILL can't either just keep their opinions to themselves or if they really don't like my posts, just add me to their ignore list. But no, instead, they have to resort to name calling and slurs.
So, in answer to your question, Gilly, no, I don't care how I'm perceived and won't adjust what I say for that reason. But if people's responses to that are posted, and get personal, then that does affect how, and indeed, if I post. And if I have to spend too much time considering how everything I say will be reacted to, then posting no longer is enjoyable.
So to those that think I'm arrogant, or pompous, or pretentious, etc, for pities sake, just add me to your ignore list. Then, you won't have to read it, will you?
I tend to judge people on their posting history, for good or bad. I have a huge mental list of people who I know post good stuff and nearly always read their posts and threads. In fact, if I'm trying to catch up on a thread I'll skim down the avatar column only stopping to read posts by people on 'the list'.
I see people making threads and they automatically get **** on, regardless of the content. Sometimes I think it's a bit harsh but these posters have made a rod for their own back.
I see people making threads and they automatically get **** on, regardless of the content. Sometimes I think it's a bit harsh but these posters have made a rod for their own back.
I dont know about how my posts are taken but I know that I do pre-judge people before I have even read their post. The fact I have made use of the ignore list proves I must think like that.
I do it in real life too - I know some people that are morons, so when they talk at me I tend to not really listen to what they say. I would say it is a fairly natural thing to do.
I do it in real life too - I know some people that are morons, so when they talk at me I tend to not really listen to what they say. I would say it is a fairly natural thing to do.
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Sequoia said:
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I would say that the way people react to you is all about money. The reason I say this is becasue there are lots of things that people can do that do not revolve around money, physical activities, talents etc... yet I do not believe that any consistently draw the ire that merely having money does.
It's UK culture I am afraid. We are money chasers to some extent, but I certainly don't think it justified to hold prejudice against someone due to finance (either good or bad).
I wish I had enough money to buy any equipment I wanted on whim (diving and climbing are expensive hobbies) but I do not want money for the sake of having money. Nor do I want to feel bad about not having lots of money, becasue money is only something that provides stability to the important stuff - rather than being the important stuff itself... as I am sure you would agree.
Remember that while a few have made comments in your direction, there are also lots of people on here that do not see you as a boaster and think you make a valuable contribution.
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No idea how I'm perceived, maybe as a bit of a stubborn arse sometimes, but I try and keep myself to myself.
I do have mental images of how others might be though based on their posts, but I would guess 9/10 they are the opposite in real life.
I do have mental images of how others might be though based on their posts, but I would guess 9/10 they are the opposite in real life.
Tru sucks and Zefan blows....its not what they do its how they do it that matters. 
Take Megzy if her first few posts were more 'constructive' she would not have earned the IBTL and dancing padlock but at least she does take it all in good fun
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Take Megzy if her first few posts were more 'constructive' she would not have earned the IBTL and dancing padlock but at least she does take it all in good fun
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Indeed. I don't normally refer to it, but I'm aware a few people have said nice things. Trouble is ... the next accusation is likely to be that I'm a drama queen looking for that kind of remark. It gets to a point where you can't win.cleanbluesky said:
I agree. Yet many people don't realise that having money, while it clearly has benefits, has disadvantages too. And yes, I'd rather have it than not, and I certainly would say that scrimping around to pay bills or feed the kids is not a problem I'd wish on anybody, but .... having money is not an entirely beneficial situation either.cleanbluesky said:
For a start, it makes you a target, and I don't mean of nasty remarks. I mean of armed burglars in your house. Etc. It means you end up taking what might be seen as paranoid measures ..... until you've had a burglar with a gun creeping around your house in the middle of the night. After that, those measures might seem a bit more sensible.
But also, are the blokes dating (or marrying) your daughters interested in the daughters or their inheritance? What about friends? Also, lifestyle tends to adjust to resources. And yes, you get to to enjoy that lifestyle, but having more money doesn't necessarily mean you can easily afford the bills - it might just mean you have bigger bills. Or, for that matter, that you can afford the time because if you're not careful, you're to busy chasing more money. It's all about living within your means, whatever those may be, and not everybody manages that. Look at some of the disaster stories from lottery winners. And did the fame and money do George Best any favours?
Oh, there's loads of implications and, as I said, I'd still rather have it than scrimp to pay bills every month. But people imagine that money solve all problems. Unless you're talking about Gatesian levels of money, it doesn't solve everything. It solves some things and creates others. And does Gatesian money have it own problems. Yup, I'm sure it does, and I can see some of them. But you'd have to ask Gates for an exhaustive list. I will say this - I wouldn't swap places with him.
Not least of the problems is that, unless you are lucky enough to have inherited it or won the lottery, having (self-made) money probably means your are an obessive type who has earned your money the hard way and, in many cases, weren't doing it for the money in the first place. Otherwise, why do so many millionaires, and even billionaires, still work at all?
Money jealousy is a funny thing. It's largely a case of thinking the grass just has to be greener on the other side of the fence, when the fence is so high, you can't even see the lawn. Well, it probably is greener, but believe me, there's a fair few weeds, and some of them are poisonous.
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Erm where was I being insulting? Again you have only been a member here a short while so I don't expect you to 'get' my posts. Ask CBS or VIRII or dmpoole or wohoo or Spawn or etc. etc. my posts in the speakers corner were hell of a lot more frequent a few years ago, i'd spend hours arguing my side, my ocuk political party even won the ocuk election (remember that wohoo?
), it hit a wall when I realised that all that effort whilst recognised by some was wasted when the same old topics came up month after month. It was like debating with an brick wall, ignorant and stubborn and I got tired of it so I pretty much left it and never got involved again. You may think your thread posed a unique question but threads like that existed all the way back in 2001, it's exhaustive and my 'send the darkies' back home comments are always received in jest because 'I am a darkie too'.
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I have different personalities for different groups.
In SC and GD I can be quite sarcastic but in MUSIC I am quite serious.
I know that when I start or reply to a thread in MUSIC that some will hang on every word I say and others will pull a face thinking that I think I'm the be all and end all of music. I wish it was that way but I'm learning all the time and hope to carry on that way. I can't help it if 3 1/2 decades of experience makes me recommend certain things.
Those people who pull faces look at what I'm doing now and and judge my last 48 years on that one thing which is quite sad. I also can't help if I'm that old that I've been to see many bands that a lot of people would have killed to see.
However, all you who pull your faces have one thing on me - I'll be dead sooner than you and you'll get to see acts I'll never see.
As far as I know I don't spam and I will continue to give my experience in certain topics, take the pee in others and listen and learn from virtually everywhere else.
In SC and GD I can be quite sarcastic but in MUSIC I am quite serious.
I know that when I start or reply to a thread in MUSIC that some will hang on every word I say and others will pull a face thinking that I think I'm the be all and end all of music. I wish it was that way but I'm learning all the time and hope to carry on that way. I can't help it if 3 1/2 decades of experience makes me recommend certain things.
Those people who pull faces look at what I'm doing now and and judge my last 48 years on that one thing which is quite sad. I also can't help if I'm that old that I've been to see many bands that a lot of people would have killed to see.
However, all you who pull your faces have one thing on me - I'll be dead sooner than you and you'll get to see acts I'll never see.
As far as I know I don't spam and I will continue to give my experience in certain topics, take the pee in others and listen and learn from virtually everywhere else.
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gurdas said:
Like **** they are. I'll acknolwedge that you have put effort in the past, but now you dont seem to be more interested in effigising the attitudes of posters to suggest that their attitudes are a product of nothing more than xenophobia or racism or both. If you see posts you don't like, don't try and take the **** without context... you have proven yourself more than capable of debate so take that route.
Right now we are at a very interesting point in time, and the attitudes of people are getting very interesting. It would be pointless to waste the oportunity to understand the attitudes of others and discuss our own attitudes.
I have read the forum for over a year before that date, I couldn't join because I didn't have access to a valid email adress. But yes, me being more of a 'noob' proberly doesn't help me understand your posts.gurdas said:
You have to admit though that if someone under 100 posts had made such comments he proberly would have been flamed at the very least.
cleanbluesky said:
I gave up when people didn't listen/understand. This forum in general, is very xenophobic and my views would fall of deaf ears, it's a fact and its happened time and time again. A simple test, post a thread about mobos, english flags, hot cross buns, nursery rhymes and you'll see all the classics start to come out. Speaker's Corner is a bit better but end of the day this forum is full of computer geeks who are locked behind their screens and read the newspapers far too much to have a proper debate with.
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gurdas said:
If you have such a poor view of the posters here then you should examine your involvement in the forum.
As far as the rest of what you are saying, the english flags, nursery rhymes etc... issues are often debated, some are real, some are ambiguous, some are false but either way it is fair to talk about them. Just because people do not share your view it does not mean they are 'xenophobic', and if you do not offer reasoning behind your argument then they are not given enough information to support your view.
You'll be wanting to post about that here.gurdas said:
You'll be wanting to post about that here.gurdas said:
I would be surprised if non-newspaper readers had as much to debate (in the sense that they, at least, might be in a position where they can reference a multitude of viewpoints) - Except on an existential, or philisphical level. Although telly does have the news on it, it's fairly tabloid most of the time.gurdas said:
Nix said:
How was it a bigotted statement?
cleanbluesky said:
I have examined my involvement, hence me not partaking in such debates as often as I used to. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy the rest of what the forums have to offer.
cleanbluesky said:
I understand this, but I know a xenophobic attitude when I see it, it's often fairly obvious in certain threads. People have a very anti view on muslims, even the innocent ones, just because they get put under the 'all muslims are bad umbrella', if thats not a negative perspective I don't know what is.