Does how you are personally perceived affect how your threads/posts are seen?
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gurdas said:
There is no context to it other that your attempt to pass off that "it was in jest" in this thread. Out of that context, the statement is nothing more than bigotted, can you not see that?
Just because you're black, does not mean you're entitled to say such things. To the average poster, it just makes you look like an arrogant troll, which is just what I dismissed you as during that thread.
Just because you've lost patience with forming decent replies, does not mean you're entitled to ruin it for others. In future, please refrain from doing so.
Nix said:
But if you start taking any statements out of context you can come to pretty much any conclusion you like. I'm entitled to say anything I damn well like, you can't tell me where I can and cannot post, if you don't take the time to understand the context that I am posting in then that's your problem.
Does how you are personally perceived affect how your threads/posts are seen?
for me, no. I read a few of the forums and usually just check out anything interesting or if its a slow day ill read a lot of the new threads too. If its an interesting thread i usually commit to reading every post, I guess I do things backwards i.e. look at post content and then see whos posted it lol
I guess that's probably cos im the type of person who doesnt like to miss anything, i wouldnt skip peoples posts or just read the regualr posters posts either.
interesting topic
for me, no. I read a few of the forums and usually just check out anything interesting or if its a slow day ill read a lot of the new threads too. If its an interesting thread i usually commit to reading every post, I guess I do things backwards i.e. look at post content and then see whos posted it lol
I guess that's probably cos im the type of person who doesnt like to miss anything, i wouldnt skip peoples posts or just read the regualr posters posts either.
interesting topic
Personally, I think I do give more of my attention to threads started by certain members, that’s probably because they start threads which I deem to be of a decent standard or are interesting to me. Depending on the forum I’m in at the time this sort of filtering changes. For instance in HG&P I know which users are more likely to ask certain questions, and others that will start threads with some interesting news. By giving people mini profiles in my own mind, I know if I’m going to be likely to answer their question or if they post something interesting.
As for GD, I know there are certain users who will start threads that will get flamed and derailed regardless of content. Fair enough, those users might have brought that upon them selves, but they have changed and that doesn’t seem to stop people piling in. I also know which users will create fun threads that will help pass some time to read if I’m bored. I know this is positive discrimination towards certain member’s threads, but it’s the only way to find something worth reading in a very large forum.
As for how my own threads and posts are perceived; I’m sure that if I pay more attention to some users, then others will ignore or read mine depending on their attitude towards me.
As for GD, I know there are certain users who will start threads that will get flamed and derailed regardless of content. Fair enough, those users might have brought that upon them selves, but they have changed and that doesn’t seem to stop people piling in. I also know which users will create fun threads that will help pass some time to read if I’m bored. I know this is positive discrimination towards certain member’s threads, but it’s the only way to find something worth reading in a very large forum.
As for how my own threads and posts are perceived; I’m sure that if I pay more attention to some users, then others will ignore or read mine depending on their attitude towards me.
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gurdas said:
It depends whether it is backed up with reason or not. Islam is becoming an obvious problem in this country and some of the parts of Islam that people find disagreeable are written into the Koran. If a person is a Muslim then they say they follow the Koran.
cleanbluesky said:
The thing is, I don't think islam is becoming a problem. There are a minority of people who are USING islam negatively but there are many people like me and you who are just getting on with their day to day life. One of my best friends is a muslim and she is the most genuine person I have ever met, to say she is part of a big problem is just something I cannot understand.
I havnt read the whole thread, so this might have been covered already:
Generally, if you make a good impression for the first few months that you are on here, that everyone will love you, respect your opinion, ect; until you seriously mess up for whatever reason.
The problem is, that its hard to make that good impression if you dont 'fit in' with a lot of the general concensus of ideas from the various sub-forums that you might hang around in.
Certain sub-forums/groups of members tend to stick together and generally 'dominate' a certain sub forum. As such, if you cant make an initial good impression on them, then for the rest of your stay, they percieve you in a certain way, and that affects what sort of reaction you get from them.
You are effectivly 'pigion holed' by the main members of that particular sub-forum. But not outside of it.
For example, you could be 'hated' in one sub-forum, but liked/neutral in another.
Im not sure if what ive tryed to say above is clear though.
Yes.
Generally, if you make a good impression for the first few months that you are on here, that everyone will love you, respect your opinion, ect; until you seriously mess up for whatever reason.
The problem is, that its hard to make that good impression if you dont 'fit in' with a lot of the general concensus of ideas from the various sub-forums that you might hang around in.
Certain sub-forums/groups of members tend to stick together and generally 'dominate' a certain sub forum. As such, if you cant make an initial good impression on them, then for the rest of your stay, they percieve you in a certain way, and that affects what sort of reaction you get from them.
You are effectivly 'pigion holed' by the main members of that particular sub-forum. But not outside of it.
For example, you could be 'hated' in one sub-forum, but liked/neutral in another.
Im not sure if what ive tryed to say above is clear though.
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I agree with Gilly (no other option tbh )
In particular people I've met, their posts automatically stick out as I can relate to them saying it, also many posters who because of their previous post seem to command more or less respect then others who I don't know. Don't think it's a conscious thing though, just an inevitable consequence of building up an image of someone based on their posts.
)In particular people I've met, their posts automatically stick out as I can relate to them saying it, also many posters who because of their previous post seem to command more or less respect then others who I don't know. Don't think it's a conscious thing though, just an inevitable consequence of building up an image of someone based on their posts.
Certain names on the forums get more attention then others. No matter where you go its always a big popularity contest
I think its to do with the fact that some entertain more or have something better to say than others hence getting more attention. So I'll notice certain names and usually pay more attention or take certain comments lightly because I can tell that they are kidding.
Also post count in some instances is an indicator of how much attention you'd pay to someones posts but even then I think some of the high posters are hardly recognised. There are loads of us members on these forums and its hard to keep track of everyone.
I think its to do with the fact that some entertain more or have something better to say than others hence getting more attention. So I'll notice certain names and usually pay more attention or take certain comments lightly because I can tell that they are kidding.
Also post count in some instances is an indicator of how much attention you'd pay to someones posts but even then I think some of the high posters are hardly recognised. There are loads of us members on these forums and its hard to keep track of everyone.
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gurdas said:
Read the Koran and read about Islamic law. Islam is an ideology whose laws say that homosexuals should be killled, that disobedient women should be beaten. This is not going to change, because it is the word of Allah.
You have to ask yourself how such an ideology is supported. I do not believe that all Muslims provide direct support for terrorism, but already we have seen non-terrorist Muslims writing to the Prime Minister suggesting that the cause of terrorism is not satisfying the demands of Muslims with regards to our foreign policy.
Of all the Islamic terrorist attacks, the attackers have held only one thing in common. One single thing. Not race, not education, not social class, not how much money they had in the bank, not nationality, not family, not language.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Take me, for example. I was disliked, I was annoying, I was up myself. So about 5 years ago I decided not to be and I changed.BoomAM said:
All you need to do to change people's opinions of you is be different. Change yourself. Keep doing the same things wrong and you'll get the same treatment. Change, and slowly people's attitudes towards you will change. You did it some months back. No offence, but you were a **** towards me. You've changed since then. I still don't like you for how you were, but the dislike isn't even nearly as intense as it was.
gurdas said:
I can't take the time to understand context which you do not provide. To me, you're just another anonymous poster and if you continue to troll, I will treat as such regardless. The lack of context is not my problem, it is yours. You've already suggested it yourself; if you don't provide context - a myriad of conclusions can and often will be drawn. Either provide some context or accept that people's reaction to you is of your own making.
No one is under any obligation to understand who you are, what your posting style is, or your agenda. If baffles me that you seem to think people are under an obligation to do so.
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Nix said:
I don't care what peoples reactions are, it used to affect me but I post the way I normally do and people will either get it, or they won't. The context is all there, so no it is not my problem. This is a community full of different characters and personalities, posts are taken in context of who posts, I'd agree with your perspective if we were all under the username of 'guest' but we aren't and we all have our own posting styles.
What you are classing as trolling is incorrect, you are missing the context and that is your fault. I'm not going to make exceptions just so the newest member created can understand what i'm saying, otherwise we all may aswell have the same username.
Thats what i dont agree with tbh.
While it is possible to change, certain sub-forums, and on other forums as a whole, only 'accept you' when you change to the point where you think the same, have the same if not similar opinions, and that is what i cant personally abide by.
Lets look at it specifically towards me.
Over the years, ive tryed not to let things bother me as much, i wont blantently insult/flame people, instead prefering to resove something with a debate. Ive let people take the mick, and not let it bother me, i even add the occasional joke.
But still certain groups of members pigion hole me based on what ive been like in the past. Purely because they dont agree with my opinions on a particular topic. Thats fine, i can accept that someone elses opinion will be different to mine, i dont condem them for it. Yet people do me. And for the life of me, i cannot understand why.
As you said, us two particularly have had our difference in the past, where we've both been at fault at one time or another (mainly me though
), yet, there is still a healthy, yet begrudging respect for one anothers opinions. (i hope ), Thats good.But, not everyone is like that.
Its down to what people percieve another member to be, as has been said, and past that point, its v.hard to get people to change their original perception.
As you have said, your negative impression of me is still there from whats happened in the past, but it has gone down a bit. Probably because of how ive changed over the years. But some members havnt changed that original opinion at all. I can name one in particular who ive confronted outright as to what their problem is with me, identifyed the problem, and then changed because of it to help alliviate the tension. But still, that members perception of me remains.
Now all of the above may look like me being extremely specific to me and my situation, but its an example of perceptions being hard to change generally, and that not every member is willing to let their perception be changed.
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I managed to totally miss out that part in my responseGilly said:
I don't think it has made much of a difference to how my threads are perceived. A think a very few people might check a thread I have started just because it's me, but probably only those who have met me and even then only one or two of them. If I did post absolute drivel I would fully expect to get flamed as much as the next person and I don't think anyone would come running to my defence as readily as some other members seems to get. I also think this only really applies in GD and not in any of the other sub-forums I post in. Hopefully though I don't post too much spam and drivel for it to be an issue anyway
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Tommy D said:
Well it's mainly in the "boys" threads where, quite simply, the boys don't want to hear our opinion and therefore ignore it.
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Gilly said:
At a guess(and I could be way off) Mickey_D could be thinking of the picture of Dangerous pouting with a necklace and lipstick on? That is the only picture I can think of that regularly gets touted with lipstick anywhere near it.
As to the actual topic, I think your personal standing does affect how your posts are viewed, I will read most peoples posts provided they aren't all text speak or similar but some I will take more time over and some I skim. This is partly because of a fairly hefty mental list of posters previous history that I have acquired without trying but some posts obviously contain more "worthy" content due to their length/complexity.
My mental list applies slightly less in the hardware forums than in the life sections, mainly because high post count/recognisability does not always equal knowledge and that is what counts for me in hardware. The life forums for the most part are about opinions much more than a simple "Is this compatible with xxx?". There are certain posters who consistently post quality advice in hardware that I agree with time and again, to an extent if I see them posting I am less likely to read the thread because I feel reassured that useful information has already been posted so there is nothing much I can add.
As for my posting, I don't know how it is seen and for the most part I don't care too much. I'd like to be seen as helpful and a nice guy but whether that is what comes across I can't tell