Dogs off a leash in parks

[Nutty_Death]

Learn to handle confrontation then, running off to the internet isn't going to help your issues with dogs.

You're well within your rights to say you don't want his dog on your property.

Thanks for the advice.

I grew up with dogs so generally I don't have issues with them.

However with the post you're referring to, I don't think it's acceptable to assume that it's ok to bring your dog to someone's house.

I had a conversation with the plasterer and it's all sorted now.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I had a conversation with the plasterer and it's all sorted now.

What was the outcome?

 

[HoneyBadger]

Thats like wearing a t-shirt with the words "keep away from me unless you want a punch in the face" on it.

You'll be held legally responsible regardless.

According to:

The Dangerous Dogs Act & How It Affects Dog Owners | RSPCA

Dealing with a dog attack - PDSA


Quoting the RSPCA which details the Dangerous Dogs act:

What happens if my dog is attacked by another dog? Is that an offence?
It is an offence if your dog attacks an assistance dog but attacks on other animals including pet dogs are not. However, a court could prosecute if a person believes they would have been injured if they tried to stop a dog attacking their animal. If your dog is attacked by another dog, the incident should still be reported to the police immediately.

Therefore, I think my reply above would suffice. If I'm out with my GSD, taking all necessary precautions and a reckless owner lets their dog approach mine, and they fight, I would consider the other parties dog as dangerous, and proceed accordingly.

 

[Nutty_Death]

What was the outcome?

The dogs in the van and he pops out to see it. This was after the dog ran through the house when I opened the door to talk with him.

The house is reasonably separated from the building work but we do occasionally have to go through it.

He wouldn't normally bring it to work but he had reasons today.

 

[ttaskmaster]

I know, hence why we rent private space in addition to our garden.

Not really viable round here, at about £15 per hour. I'd spend my quarterly fuel bill every week just taking them out.

 

[200sols]

Therefore, I think my reply above would suffice. If I'm out with my GSD, taking all necessary precautions and a reckless owner lets their dog approach mine, and they fight, I would consider the other parties dog as dangerous, and proceed accordingly.

Your dog should be muzzled if you think it would bite.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Your dog should be muzzled if you think it would bite.

If I come up to you giving it large and looking for all the world like I'm right about to bottle you in the face... would you ever defend yourself?
If so, then you should be wrapped in a straitjacket. You are clearly dangerous.

 

[200sols]

If I come up to you giving it large and looking for all the world like I'm right about to bottle you in the face... would you ever defend yourself?
If so, then you should be wrapped in a straitjacket. You are clearly dangerous.

Violent dogs need to be muzzled in public, I'd argue the same should apply to humans but it would never happen.

 

[HoneyBadger]

Your dog should be muzzled if you think it would bite.

Whilst I agree, I think you need to clarify.

As demonstrated above, if two dogs fight, there is seemingly no legal issues surrounding this unless they are on a banned list, which a GSD is not. Police can be called but it becomes more a civil matter (i.e. any vets fee's/damages)

If you're talking about biting a person, then that is clearly a different matter. My GSD absolutely would and does wear a muzzle (I.e. taking to the vet, again, merely a precaution, he's normally fine but he's big, strong and intimidating and I recognise that) - however if someone continues to approach me despite me asking/warning them not too, then they have more to worry about than my GSD.

 

[Ayahuasca]

however if someone continues to approach me despite me asking/warning them not too, then they have more to worry about than my GSD.

Would depend on the specific situation but the likelihood is your dog is getting put down if it bites someone. Even in cases of self-defence, it happens.

 

[200sols]

If you're talking about a biting a person, then that is clearly a different matter. My GSD would absolutely would and do wear a muzzle (I.e. taking to the vet, again, merely a precaution) - however if someone continues to approach me despite me asking/warning them not too, then they have more to worry about than my GSD.

Well if a dog has bitten other dogs it is not a big step to bite a human, it happens often.

 

[HoneyBadger]

Would depend on the specific situation but the likelihood is your dog is getting put down if it bites someone. Even in cases of self-defence, it happens.

I know, my GSD was trained with assistance from a Police dog trainer, who told me (At the time) what the law was. If you check (and I have) you will find the only legal way a dog can legally bite someone is:

1) If someone breaks into your house (Only house, NOT your garden)
2) If they are a trained security animal, i.e. Police dog

So I'm unsure of your point, because if you take the time to read up you'll see that I agree with you entirely.

Well if a dog has bitten other dogs it is not a big step to bite a human, it happens often.

If you're referring to 'the taste of blood' then it is rumoured that once an animal tastes blood, that's it. I couldn't comment, except to say mine to taste blood as they eat a raw food diet and have done for all their lives.

Also read above, you seem to be missing the point that I agree with you, i.e. if a dog bits a human, generally speaking unless under certain circumstances as mentioned above, they would be destroyed, therefore if as a responsible dog owner, if I believe my GSD is a threat to human life, he would be muzzled. If however a dog attempts to attack him, then said dog would have to contend with me letting my GSD respond, as well as me responding also.

It's only a difficult as you make it.

 

[HoneyBadger]

Pic of my male GSD....

 

[Ayahuasca]

So I'm unsure of your point, because if you take the time to read up you'll see that I agree with you entirely.

The point was in you saying they would have more to worry about than your dog. The likelihood is they survive the attack and crack on with their life, whereas for your dog, his tour on this earth would be over. I guess dogs can't really "worry" in that sense as he wouldn't know what's coming.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Violent dogs need to be muzzled in public, I'd argue the same should apply to humans but it would never happen.

Define violent.
In this situation, you're on about muzzling a dog to stop it defending itself. That's just stupid and really not the way to go, any more than your willingness to defend yourself would mean you should be jacketed.

Dogs do sometimes bark and growl at each other... that doesn't make them violent, any more than you having a shouting match with some **** that just cut you up on the road makes you a violent person. Occasionally they may snap at other dogs who need more convincing to **** off out of their space. I've had that happen a couple of times with my own, when some dog has come up to them and kicked off. It's their fault for coming up like that so they get told off quite succinctly, and most owners have fully accepted that. That's just normal dog behaviour. It doesn't need muzzling any more than a horse needs to have its legs tied for kicking when someone comes screaming up like a retard and spooking it.

If it's kids you're worried about, be a proper parent and teach them not to act like ***** around animals. They learn responsibility, and you don't then put an animal in a situation where it can be killed for doing exactly what it's supposed to.
Rule number one is to always ask before approaching someone else's dog. If you don't do that, or utterly ignore them, you deserve everything you get and shouldn't be allowed outside without your handler's supervision.

 

[Demon]

He wears a big reflective yellow jacket with "I NEED SPACE" written on it. I change direction if I see other dogs, I even yell to those who have dogs off lead, i.e. "Please keep your distance" - If they ignore that, it's on them.

Therefore, I think my reply above would suffice. If I'm out with my GSD, taking all necessary precautions and a reckless owner lets their dog approach mine, and they fight, I would consider the other parties dog as dangerous, and proceed accordingly.

If however a dog attempts to attack him, then said dog would have to contend with me letting my GSD respond, as well as me responding also.

however if someone continues to approach me despite me asking/warning them not too, then they have more to worry about than my GSD.

I'm not getting 'responsible' owner vibes, more 'spoiling for a fight'

 

[HoneyBadger]

It’s true. You can’t argue with stupid.

 

[ttaskmaster]

I'm not getting 'responsible' owner vibes, more 'spoiling for a fight'

Perhaps you should come out with us some time and see the sort of self-entitled ******** with which we have to contend...
You must know the type - They're the ones who would go up to a gorilla, scratching their armpits and going "Ook ook ook" at the poor creature, and then get upset when the thing batters their skull in instead of trying to communicate in sign language like the one in Congo.
Usually they end up trampled by a randy bull after ignoring the warning signs posted on the gate.

 

[^TANK^]

Pic of my male GSD....

Lovely looking dog.

 

[ChroniC]

Fine, dog owners can learn to expect me kicking their dog if it comes anywhere near me.

As I said, we keep to ourselves so don't walk your chavy dog towards young kids who are also enjoying the open space.

Without sounding rude, you should be very careful with that attitude. I personally will tell you, if I saw anyone how every large, kick my dog. They would be kicking themselves that they hadn't and I doubt I'm not alone in that sentiment.. Remember the saying there's always someone bigger or crazier.