Doubling up speaker cable, improvement I've noticed

[turbot1984]

I've listened to lots of interconnects and these are by far the best I have ever found . Detailed, totally neutral, no noticeable signal loss even on long runs, double shielded so incredibly low noise. These probably provide the best signal possible before going XLR

I have got a cheapo phono to Din lead between Naim preamp-power amp... could do with something posher. Also have the option of good phono interconnect but heard Din is best? Any thoughts?

 

[Parsley]

This old 4chan thread pretty much covers it for me. There are some golden pictures in it (scanned it, nothing dodgy that I saw if anyone cares).

https://4chanarchives.com/board/g/thread/53716985

 

[wonko]

I've listened to lots of interconnects...

I prefer to listen to the music, but each to their own. It seems you've already convinced yourself that you'll hear differences when you swap cables, so it's not really a surprise when you (think you) do. Expectation bias is a powerful thing, and no-one is immune.

 

[Parsley]

I prefer to listen to the music, but each to their own. It seems you've already convinced yourself that you'll hear differences when you swap cables, so it's not really a surprise when you (think you) do. Expectation bias is a powerful thing, and no-one is immune.

You're wasting your time, just enjoy the insanity!

 

[robj20]

OP if you were serious about sound quality at least run balanced interconnects.

 

[Gray2233]

This old 4chan thread pretty much covers it for me. There are some golden pictures in it (scanned it, nothing dodgy that I saw if anyone cares).

https://4chanarchives.com/board/g/thread/53716985

This cracked me up.

 

[wonko]

You're wasting your time, just enjoy the insanity!

Hehe, I know. I've been entertained by this sort of stuff for years, and sadly am old enough to know you can't argue with a belief.

Anyway, how do I install these unobtainium cable lifters I've just bought in my active speakers?

 

[JasonM]

How are they detailed? No signal loss, why would there be other than the standard loss you get from any electronic connection and resistance.

You talk about wiring as though it has magical properties that just isn't possible. It's a bit of copper wire that transmits a voltage it's that simple.
The fact you think it has no single signal loss on longer find is total horse **** as well that's physically impossible everything has a measurable loss even if you used 0awg.

Part off my job is actually dealing with complicated "interconnects" Google quadrax cable. Even that is just bog standard cable yes it's complicated but as long as it's terminated correctly the best you can achieve is "it works" you can't add anything.

I said no noticeable signal loss.

The Lo-Cap 55's are 3 strands of silver plated copper. These cables don't make detail, however cheaper RCA's can muddy (loose detail) the sound quality.

Cheap RCA's have more resistance, I have some 3m Belkin RCA cables and there is notable drop in volume (lower signal) from those cables.

If your dealing with interconnects then you will understand shielding, and the Lo-Cap 55's are double shielded. I've had studio monitors that have suffered with background noise that was at least part solved by better shielded cables.

 

[Parsley]

Hehe, I know. I've been entertained by this sort of stuff for years, and sadly am old enough to know you can't argue with a belief.

Anyway, how do I install these unobtainium cable lifters I've just bought in my active speakers?

You need to mount the lifters on lead impregnated walnut base stands that are connected to the wall (don't touch the floor, the earths magnetic waves decrease sound quality). How you mount them to the wall is another discussion, but if you're serious you'll be looking at at least adamantium plated cantilever arms.

Oh and make sure you get 5 Virgins (any gender is fine) to set everything up. If anyone who isn't a Virgin touches your equipment at any time, it becomes tainted and your set up will lose clarity. You might also find your sound stage is diminished a little.

 

[JasonM]

OP if you were serious about sound quality at least run balanced interconnects.

XLR becomes very important when you have multiple analogue equipment connected together, and the combined analogue noise would become to much.

When your connecting a single source to an amp, then RCA's are ok. Again you can use good shielded interconnects to reduce any noise issue.

You say at least run balanced interconnects, that would cost me a significant amount of money, as would require new amp, new cd player, talking in the £1000's to change all that. In contrast one of those cables in the photo was £28. So that's £28 to improve the signal, as it happens from a CD player, compared to the vast amount to change to XLR, thats not required anyway.

 

[wonko]

You need to mount the lifters on lead impregnated walnut base stands that are connected to the wall (don't touch the floor, the earths magnetic waves decrease sound quality). How you mount them to the wall is another discussion, but if you're serious you'll be looking at at least adamantium plated cantilever arms.

Hmm, that would be expensive, but I'm sure it will be great value for money. I've read that you mustn't start listening until they have been run in for at least 50 years. Better stop before we're told we're not taking it seriously...

 

[bloodiedathame]

you can't add anything.

Rubbish, my lights at home are definitely brighter and use less electricity because I used premium cable when I did a rewire.

/sarcasmmodeoff

 

[Demon]

I've listened to lots of interconnects and these are by far the best I have ever found . Detailed, totally neutral, no noticeable signal loss even on long runs, double shielded so incredibly low noise. These probably provide the best signal possible before going XLR

As proven above, I've found that using cable elevators for all my speaker cables and interconnects makes much more of a dramatic improvement. It's transformed my audio so much I was amazed when I put on my Kylie Album and instead of a "I should be so lucky" I got Adele's "Hello"..

And only double shielded? I run all mine in a 10 stage faraday cage russian doll configuration for the ultimate in low noise.

The other improvement that's relatively cheap but even a deaf person could discern is hanging wet clothing over the cables, this causes ten times the reluctance values, but I do find that if I hang a cheap pair of George jeans on them, the audio is just not as airy or dynamic as if I hang Levi jeans over them, plus I've found the type of water makes such a difference, regular tap water gives this closed in presentation, but Voss water in particular really widens the soundstage..

 

[robj20]

I said no noticeable signal loss.

The Lo-Cap 55's are 3 strands of silver plated copper. These cables don't make detail, however cheaper RCA's can muddy (loose detail) the sound quality.

Cheap RCA's have more resistance, I have some 3m Belkin RCA cables and there is notable drop in volume (lower signal) from those cables.

If your dealing with interconnects then you will understand shielding, and the Lo-Cap 55's are double shielded. I've had studio monitors that have suffered with background noise that was at least part solved by better shielded cables.

Do you even know why they are silver plated?
I'd love to see the huge difference in a cheap 18awg wire Vs an expensive 18awg wire, I bet the difference is almost non existent. Certainly not perceivable by the ear never mind a scope/meter.
If love to see how the double shielding works as well. I'd imagine it's just marketing rubbish, you might have 2 layers of shielding but where are they terminated?

 

[robj20]

Rubbish, my lights at home are definitely brighter and use less electricity because I used premium cable when I did a rewire.

/sarcasmmodeoff

Love that, do you get a warmer colour as well?

 

[JasonM]

Here is a question for everyone. Look at the following pair of RCA interconnects.

Providing the rest of your system is resolving, do you think there is any change in sound regardless of what following cable pair is used?

 

[Armageus]

Here is a question for everyone. Look at the following pair of RCA interconnects.

Providing the rest of your system is resolving, do you think there is any change in sound regardless of what following cable pair is used?

You lost me at "interconnects" and "resolving".

However I would imagine there is no difference in sound between the cheap RCA cables and the expensive RCA cables

 

[bloodiedathame]

Love that, do you get a warmer colour as well?

Oh definitely. My family can't see any difference though and think I'm an idiot.

 

[EsaT]

However I would imagine there is no difference in sound between the cheap RCA cables and the expensive RCA cables

Why not straightened coat hangers?

https://www.soundguys.com/cable-myths-reviving-the-coathanger-test-23553/

 

[JasonM]

You lost me at "interconnects" and "resolving".

However I would imagine there is no difference in sound between the cheap RCA cables and the expensive RCA cables

I find that really interesting. The very majority of your posts are high quality, your obviously quite intelligent person, you certainly know a lot computer stuff, i'm not trying to be funny I really mean this.

However your believe these cables sound the same is just so wrong. If you were listening to my HiFi system, I could change your view in under 10 seconds, that's how profound the difference is between these cables.