The last ride got me. With all the flashback voices while you ride one last time. That song too. Amazing.
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
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Caporegime
Game publishers do have the right to pick and chose who they dole out keys to and on a personal level i don't have a problem with it.
You also can't make people like what you do, it seems incredible to me that increasingly these days game developers are not making games for gamers, they are making games for fringe activists who are on 13 different flavours of antidepressants.
You also can't make people like what you do, it seems incredible to me that increasingly these days game developers are not making games for gamers, they are making games for fringe activists who are on 13 different flavours of antidepressants.
Soldato
The only positive with that @humbug those developers won't be around for much longer. The real question is will the rest actually learn anything from it.
Certainly most of the games I've seen recently that are designed for a "modern audience" have all tanked badly, but they are still blaming the customer for their failure.
Certainly most of the games I've seen recently that are designed for a "modern audience" have all tanked badly, but they are still blaming the customer for their failure.
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I think they are just adding things to make it more inclusive for everyone.
Having gay or even trans characters really shouldn't be a problem for most gamers. It's a fantasy game. I'm a 40+ year old man, none of my friends are even gay, I meet trans people so infrequently it's probably in single digits as to how many i've spoken to.
Featuring those type of characters in games doesn't bother me though.
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Soldato
And I think as you say, you either don't know any or encounter them so infrequently it doesn't even register so why are companies catering towards them? Specially if there's a possibility that your existing audience will not buy your product.
We have a few gay members in our extended family, neither of them play any games. Hell most of the girls in our family don't play games either.
Caporegime
Right, as i said you can't make people like what you do, if people don't like a product they aren't going to buy it, you're right to point the truth of this is already in action, Concord by just one example, Sony thought that was going to be their Fortnight. at its peak the player count barely broke 200, not 200K, 200.
There are only 200 fringe activists, are you surprised Sony? $400 million loss, minimum.
Money is everything, even if you don't like that fact nothing can function or exist without money, no matter how stubborn you are in your activism pretty quickly you run out of your own and then other people money, and then you're done.
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Caporegime
Its not just about trying to appeal to a wider audience, its a propaganda tool for them and people don't like to be preached to, people just want a good game and games made by activists never are.
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Ironically, I have now pre-ordered this thanks to the review Neil posted.
I wasn't even very interested in the game until the reviews, but I do like an RPG, even an action focused one.
I wasn't even very interested in the game until the reviews, but I do like an RPG, even an action focused one.
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AKA bought it on Steam.
I considered EA Play Plus, but that is £17 a month, and it sounds like a huge game and I am away a lot in November and December so it's just as cheap to buy it.
CD-keys were out of stock
Skill up lol, no offence but letting him decide for you is just idiotic,he is brutal.
Go watch a proper reviewer like Mortismal gaming.
You're still floundering like a beached halibut. Pray tell, what what do you consider as "traditional review outlets" ? If you mean the likes of IGN, again, they haven't been relevant/influential for the best part of a decade ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=IGN&hl=en-GB. ) Similar for Eurogamer, Kotaku etc. The majority of marketing / reviews in the gaming sector is conducted via social media eg. YouTube, Twitch etc.
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I don't mind the inclusive part, but just have it optional. The way the old games in Bioware did it like Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 same gender romance was not an option except until modders changed that, and they changed with options believe it or not, as well as until Beamdog introduce new companions in the EE's who lets face it were not that popular anyway who clearly had their own defined preference and again it felt forced like Vanguard.
In-fact in the classic games the romance was even more restricted by gender and race, If I played as an evil Male Dwarf in BG2 I couldn't romance Viconia the evil femme fatale un-modded, which I found quite funny tbh as she is an evil character and a drow at that, and to an extent her rejecting you a a-hole dwarf guy trying his luck is far more realistic.
Speaking of evil characters, that seems to be fair criticism of this game. Why can't we play as evil characters any longer? Bioware had this as an option in there games for such a long time and that's what made them great for multiple replays and different endings etc. Some of the funniest, and best dialog in these games are when your character and chosen companions are a complete unadulterated unhinged maniacs . By allowing to play this way, they punished the player in many other ways that would occur in real life, being hunted by guards, being caught stealing, npc's being intimidated by you etc. Bounty hunters, one could go on.
Oh well.
We had same sex character relationships even back with DA:O, not sure why it still needs to be referenced as a 'feature' these days.
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Caporegime
But you need to game to affirm to everyone else that you are He/Him, or maybe you don't like the idea of gender at all because its Tuesday afternoon so now you're a body type, so long as its not an attractive one, androgynes and morbidly obese, yes?
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