Soldato
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Having a few thousand people not be able to fly in or out of the country on a small amount of flights isn't exactly crippling the country despite what the fake news outlets would have you believe
Drones over gatwick..
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Having a few thousand people not be able to fly in or out of the country on a small amount of flights isn't exactly crippling the country despite what the fake news outlets would have you believe
If true then our security forces are ******* incompetent.
Soldato
Yeah they need to call experts on an internet forum.
Soldato
It's most likely to be some div parked up in a van with a couple of drones in the back. That means he can move around to a different location each time, isn't sat out in the elements and one drone can be charging whilst the other is causing chaos.
Although I will call it now, the moment he's caught he'll claim Aspergers or autism made him do it..
Although I will call it now, the moment he's caught he'll claim Aspergers or autism made him do it..
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This guy must be out in the countryside somewhere charging batteries off a car.
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The comments on twitter are comical. People saying the solution is as easy as getting a shotgun and shooting it lol.
Soldato
Just been confirmed that armed response units have been given permission now to shoot the drone down and they have yet to discover what type and manufacture the drone is.
Shocking
Shocking
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Well OBVIOUSLY it's Luton airport trying to shut down the competition.
Heard an "aviation expert" on CH4 News saying it's possible there's a few drones all programmed to automatically land at charging bases out of area of the pilot.
I have no idea of the feasibility.
Heard an "aviation expert" on CH4 News saying it's possible there's a few drones all programmed to automatically land at charging bases out of area of the pilot.
I have no idea of the feasibility.
What makes you think it's a single drone flying for 12-24 hours? It's obviously either one drone landing with replaceable batteries or a single drone with fast charging batteries. It's not been flying continuously, it vanishes for a while then comes back.
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It's all part of a test phase for the (non existent) Brexit plan to use " customs technology". The plan is to use drones to halt all traffic be it air, sea or land using drones.
Wait until you see the size of thetanks drones they have to stop traffic on the roads at Dover.
Wait until you see the size of the
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IIRC it is only designed to affect drones using certain frequencies.
It won't do anything for drones that are pre-programmed, drones that use things like mobile phone frequencies, drones that use non standard frequencies.
So it basically won't stop anything other than the cheaper off the shelf models as the more expensive and custom ones tend to have things "auto pilot" functions or GSM comms, and auto pilot based on GPS can't be blocked at an airport without the side effect of you know, shutting the airport down, whilst blocking mobile phone frequencies is not going to happen because those are needed for everyone from the general public, to the site security and service staff to the police (whose "radios" IIRC are now basically mobile phone based).
Even for those frequencies it does work on it may not have approval for use in the UK in general, let alone around airports (as the frequencies drones use tend to be ones allowed to be used by other devices)
There is no simple, safe and effective way to stop drones from something as large as an airport's airspace, as you need active measures to deal with them and that basically means enough staff/equipment to cover some very large areas and get to any point in that area in seconds/minutes with the deployed counter measure otherwise the drone can just disappear again (so potentially dozens/hundreds of "counter measure" drones placed not just at the perimeter but at various points so no part of the airport is more than say 30 seconds from one regardless of if it's the perimeter or the middle of the runway).
Even smaller areas like Prisons have problems with stopping them, and they at least have the option of putting netting up over the main parts of the facility.
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The whole thing is obviously very well planned out. The person who has done this may have been planning this for months. The whole thing is very calculated. I don't think for one second it has been as simple as what people have made out. But what is evidently shocking is how poorly equipped we have been to deal with this, and how slow we have been to react in terms of consulting the army when having failed to do anything over such a long period of time.
That is a bit excessive tbh... some countermeasures deployed in a vehicle might well have been sufficient to deal with the current issue (IF it is indeed a remotely controlled drone). Sure you'd have some initial disruption when the drone first appears but beyond that you'd hopefully be able to take it down.
You are of course right to point out that there are drones that could be flying some automated flight path etc... AFAIK there might still be some electronic countermeasures that could be useful there but not quite so simple as just "jamming" a single so the operator loses control.
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Why, because they can't put 1000's of officers in an airport and get full eyes on coverage constantly even in poor light/the dark?
If the person operating the drone has thought it through they'll be programming it to move somewhere, pop up, move, drop down and move to a collection point, and be changing at least some if not all of those variables every time (and if reasonably smart they'll be watching the police/security operation so can move the drone to less well covered areas).
I think you're underestimate the size of the airport and the scope of the issue.
Soldato
Got a proper chuckle from me.
its not that difficult to make a drone run on a non-standard frequency - tracking and blocking would be very difficult - there are a lot of frequencies!