Drones over gatwick..

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It's amazing when you underfund the police and you end up costing more money because they can't even deal with this. Other countries had the wherewithal to develop Police Drones to deal with it, this country is a disgrace.
 
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Just need a microwave gun and it will fry the electronics. The military will already have something to do it.

They could also watch the whole area with a satellite or their own surveillance drone. Then follow it back to whoever is controlling it. Then follow them home.
 
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Soldato
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I'm surprised they can't monitor the drones flight path, surely they could track it with some radar etc? Then run through ANPR for matches at the destinations, though obv not if more than one vehicle is involved necessarily.
 
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When the drone crops up again, can they not just shoot it down with a scoped rifle ?

Assuming you can take a lined up shot, fairly certain the rifle will tear through the drone, and then continue on for who knows how far, and then land on who knows what. It's the who knows what bit at the end that's probably giving everyon jitters on taking that plan straight off the bat.
 
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If this nonsense ends up affecting RC planes I will be pee’d off.

If this nonsense doesn’t result in the authorities stopping any nutter flying RC planes or drones within 10 km of an airport, with a guarantee of 7 years for non compliance, and no remission, a lot more people than you will be pee’d off.
 
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Drones are too fast/agile and the risk of collateral damage is too high
True. I guess I just imagined it hovering in one place. Not scooting around at high speeds.


Assuming you can take a lined up shot, fairly certain the rifle will tear through the drone, and then continue on for who knows how far, and then land on who knows what. It's the who knows what bit at the end that's probably giving everyon jitters on taking that plan straight off the bat.

Yeah on second thoughts, shooting it down with a rifle is probably not the best idea.

Maybe they could use a high powered fire truck hose ?
 
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I'm quite surprised that people genuinely think this is some kid with a remote control stood next to the perimeter fence walking up and down. You can control a decent drone (such as a DJI) without line of sight from quite a distance. It's very likely either a group of people or one person who's skilled, organised and staying very well hidden whilst swapping battery packs and/or using multiple drones.
 
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Why, because they can't put 1000's of officers in an airport and get full eyes on coverage constantly even in poor light/the dark?

If the person operating the drone has thought it through they'll be programming it to move somewhere, pop up, move, drop down and move to a collection point, and be changing at least some if not all of those variables every time (and if reasonably smart they'll be watching the police/security operation so can move the drone to less well covered areas).

I think you're underestimate the size of the airport and the scope of the issue.

We should be worried that an Airport in the capital can be brought down for 24 hours by one guy and a drone for such a length of time. Pretty surprised so many of you seem to find this acceptable? O_o
 
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You are of course right to point out that there are drones that could be flying some automated flight path etc... AFAIK there might still be some electronic countermeasures that could be useful there but not quite so simple as just "jamming" a single so the operator loses control.

There will be literally nothing they can deploy that will stop a drone with a suitable autopilot system that won't also affect things like airport ops, even something using "EMP" to try and crash the drone's controls would have to be very carefully used because there are a lot of things that will be far more susceptible to being damaged/crashed by it than the drone itself.

Even if they deploy GPS jamming, if you plan ahead with the design you can potentially get around it (possibly inertial guidence or even simple reverse course based on how long it's spent on each direction with an instruction to continue in X direction at the end until control or GPS is reacquired) until it's outside the range of the jamming. Also GPS jamming would likely require permission and co-operation of the government and CAA as you risk it affecting things far outside of the area it's intended for.
 
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Bullets falling from the sky do not cause real damage.

They reach standard terminal velocity and fall through the air as per normal, and essentially tumble due to the thickness of the atmosphere.

All the visions of random bullets piercing lord knows what miles away after being fired into the sky are pure nonsense.

If the bullet was fired horizontally, fair play, it is possible it could go wrong.
 
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Regarding GPS, aren't there supposed to be Civilian and Military variants? Scramble all Civilian ones in a wide enough area, but leave the Military ones open? Would that even be viable?
 
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