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Council tax bands aren't a good proxy size.
Still have silver insulation behind my rads.
It's a quick and easy way to split it and unless the house hasn't been sold for a long time, quite accurate
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Now -2.79% that swung a lotThe indefinite shutdown was announced after markets closed Friday.
Gas prices up 35% this morning.
Wholesale gas prices surge after Russia decides to keep Nord Stream pipeline off
The markets have reacted to Russia's decision to indefinitely suspend flows of gas through the main pipeline to continental Europe ahead of a winter that is expected to hammer Western economies.news.sky.com
The first part is true, the second part is pretty much irrelevant and Council Tax bands still aren't a good proxy for size.
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Maybe the old rateable values would work. Still used to charge for water for unmetered properties.
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I think that when everyone realises that Russia ain't a player no more, things will stabilise.
Any dwelling coming into existence since around 1 April 1990 won't have a rateable value.
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Well im sure the problem is solvable isn't it. Its not rocket science to estimate how big a house is.
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If there is one thing I would give advice on, its never mention tax and fair in the same sentence, because its nothing but opinion.
Just allocate X amount of kWh per person per house hold.
What about people like my parents with ancient old house with old Central heating that's really inefficient can't afford new system, can't have cavity insulation. I imagine a lot are in that same boat.
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Could be disproportionate against single person households though.
Put an ad up for a lodger "One room available, must bring electric allowance"
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indeed..... sometimes perfect is the enemy of the good and if they tried to be too accurate it could end up costing a fortune to implement, thus making the whole exercise futile.
so imo doing the above with 2 tiers 1 for pure electric and one for mixed energy, and then with a system implace for those who need extra help to apply for it makes sense.
am sure it isnt perfect and some will have a load of "but what about X Y Z" but those people are already facing a problem as £400 is not going to cut it for them anyway. it utterly stinks how crap and wasteful our housing is in the uk.... some of that falls on owners, but government have to take a large amount of the blame (and that covers the red team as well as blue).
any newbuild from the last 30 years there is no excuse for them not being properly insulated in the walls and ceiling..... the construction quality stinks (i almost bought one before seeing sense and improving what i had).
older properties will sometimes need individual attention, but Cameron and his cut the green crap just needs a massive kick in the nuts. He should be looking at what is happening now and be ashamed but i bet he does not give a monkies.
How? The now people the more electric you use.
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not sure if serious but i was forced to rent out a room in my home for almost 5 years.... it was that or downsize, my choice and i wasnt bitter making it as i wanted to keep a larger home.
Small flats will probably do ok out of it as they use a lot less energy on average anyway
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Heating a house uses roughly the same energy if two people live there or one.
Watching TV uses the same energy if one person is watching it or five kids.
That's why I had opted for a house size proxy.
Probably easiest thing is just to give every house the same allowance. Most houses are within a fairly small size range really, its only the very large houses that would then be struggling under that system. I go back to an allowance of about 9-12,000 kWh a year as being appropriate, either electricity only or split 75/25 gas/electricity.