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I will never understand people's staunch position of if it isn't on steam I'm not buying it. I have games on uplay steam, origin and battle.net...literally takes all of 5 second to load any of the launchers so really I don't care. I'm not a streamer and I disable overlays so feature wise as long as I can play with friends it's fine by me.

Also I think people are extremely naive if they think the big publishers don't crunch the numbers on lost sales by not going on steam. That will be factored into their projected margins so clearly it's still worth it for them.
 
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I will never understand people's staunch position of if it isn't on steam I'm not buying it. I have games on uplay steam, origin and battle.net...literally takes all of 5 second to load any of the launchers so really I don't care. I'm not a streamer and I disable overlays so feature wise as long as I can play with friends it's fine by me.

Also I think people are extremely naive if they think the big publishers don't crunch the numbers on lost sales by not going on steam. That will be factored into their projected margins so clearly it's still worth it for them.
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Im exactly the same, its not like I sit there with Steam, Origin, Uplay and all the other launchers all open/running at the same time. I just fire up the one I need to play whatever I want to play at that moment and when I'm finished I exit out of it. Really no hassle at all and there is no way I would force myself to miss out on a game because its on launcher x. If RDR2 came to PC and wasnt on steam, theres no way in hell that I would refuse to buy RDR2.
 
That's 4 different accounts by which they can correlate your life by, ignoring the risk of hacks that are likely to increase as you widen your social network. With a single account it's harder to relate things to you as a person between all your search indexes, images, vocal and textual data.

But you know "muh capitalism" or something, the argument for more competition is great in theory, pointless in reality, one company will always win.
 
StriderX said:
That's 4 different accounts by which they can correlate your life by, ignoring the risk of hacks that are likely to increase as you widen your social network. With a single account it's harder to relate things to you as a person between all your search indexes, images, vocal and textual data.

But you know "muh capitalism" or something, the argument for more competition is great in theory, pointless in reality, one company will always win.
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Right...I mean horses for courses I'm not personally worried about these things.
 
Well regardless my latter point stands, and i'm putting my eggs in a place that is likely to continue to be the main store for the foreseeable. They've stayed private as well which helps and appear to have a libertarian ethic, where as everyone else is trash covered in SJW *****.
 
SS-89 said:
Right...I mean horses for courses I'm not personally worried about these things.
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Again, I'm with you on this one. Don't really give a stuff if anyone correlates my life..its not a very interesting one so if they want to waste their time correlating my boring uneventful existence that's up to them. They could just ask me if they want, I literally have nothing to hide and don't really care who knows what I get up to.

Equally I am not fussed by hacks, the only people I have on my friends lists are people I actually know, I don't go round randomly adding gaming "acquaintances" to my lists, I've been online gaming since the beginning of online gaming, never been hacked even once in all those years, despite using almost every form of online gaming and online interface there has ever been.

So, given those factors, would I refuse to buy a game that I want to play and that I suspect will give me dozens, if not hundreds of hours of entertainment, just "because" or just "incase". No. Absolutely not.
 
Rossi~ said:
Locking out resellers/DRM platforms is anti-competitive.
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But it's ok for valve to do it? Whilst I know valve don't bother making games any more they just take their slice from everyone else.... When they did all their games were.locked to steam .hell it was valve who started it. Before HL2 if you had the disk and the code you owned the game

As I understand it epic are not forcing games to be exclusive to their store, but sure epic games will likely be exclusive just like valve games on steam
 
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chrcoluk said:
Who is pushing for this exclusivity, because if it is epic its anti consumer and a dick move.

So think of what would happen if the game was on steam "and" epic.

Many people now know the publisher takes a bigger cut on epic.

Meaning they would expect the game to be discounted on epic, if it was not it would be seen as publisher greed, if it was the same price as steam. Hence me thinking epic get it removed so that comparison cannot be made, also I expect most people would buy off steam anyway, hence them having to pull this stunt to try and get sales.

I still wont be touching the epic store.

I dont even buy games of origin or uplay and both those publishers are big name studios been around for a decade plus, I never heard of epic before their one hit wonder. The store could be gone in a year.
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Yep. I ain’t touching it either. It would have to have an exclusive on a must play game for me to do so and even then it would be just for that game and once I was done it would get uninstalled.

I like steam and like all my games in one place. I hardly ever even buy direct from steam. Mostly from CdKeys or Voidu. Until Valve start doing silly things with steam, I won’t be changing that.

Not a fan of EA or Ubisoft. Origin is something I had to install due to wanting to play Fifa online many years ago and also for Crysis 3. But it hardly ever gets installed. With me going for a PS5, I doubt I will ever install it on my PC ever again. I still don’t have a uPlay account. They can give all the free games away they want. If those games were on my radar (only so much time we have to play) they would have already been played.

I do have battle.net though, never had an issue with them. It is just for when I fancy playing Starcraft 2 :)
 
bigmike20vt said:
But it's ok for valve to do it?
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With their own games? Nobody's getting annoyed by Epic keeping Fortnite exclusive to their launcher. Also you can buy Orange Box keys from other stores. Heck, you even used to be able to get it from Uplay before Ubi pulled the plug on selling other dev's games. Games that are exclusive to the Epic store can't be bought from anywhere else so there's no competition. Let's take a look at a couple of examples.
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If we ignore all the guff about lack of features, they way things currently are on Epic's store still aren't good for the consumer. I would like Epic to become a decent competitor to Steam, but the way they're going about it isn't competition. The only compelling reason to get anything from them is the exclusives so we don't get better prices, just another launcher.
 
StriderX said:
That's 4 different accounts by which they can correlate your life by, ignoring the risk of hacks that are likely to increase as you widen your social network. With a single account it's harder to relate things to you as a person between all your search indexes, images, vocal and textual data.

But you know "muh capitalism" or something, the argument for more competition is great in theory, pointless in reality, one company will always win.
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Agreed about the first part, disagreed about the second - competition is great in theory and in practice :)
Unfortunately Epic buying artificial exclusives is the opposite of competition, but it probably won't last and they will stop doing it sooner or later.

StriderX said:
Well regardless my latter point stands, and i'm putting my eggs in a place that is likely to continue to be the main store for the foreseeable. They've stayed private as well which helps and appear to have a libertarian ethic, where as everyone else is trash covered in SJW *****.
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Yeah Valve have by far the best policies as far as I am concerned. People complain about asset flips and what not, but I never see those and I am glad everyone can selfpublish on Steam.
 
Next game (Jackbox Party Pack) is available now.

And coming up in two weeks time is Axiom Verge. That's a nice bonus as it's another one I've wanted to play but never purchased.
 
Its a chump move by the publisher & developer over 18% but you can see it coming a mile off. Valve are too slow to react to changes. MS, EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda & Take 2 all have their own launchers & sell their newer games exclusively on their own platform. Sooner or later Valve will need to do something drastic or risk becoming an archival or back catalog service only.

That is the time to worry will Valve start monetizing bandwidth to retrieve your older games when its becomes clear the publishers are dumping them. Right now the bandwidth is being subsidised by the 30% Valve cut on sales if it starts to get sticky financially as lets face it so many major PC games are available on other publisher platforms only then sooner or later Valve have to do something drastic & charging gamers for existing Steam library bandwidth retrieval will not go down well at all if they want to go down that road to make up the shortfall!!
 
If it’s going to work, Epic has to create a platform and store that people want to use, not one they’re forced to use. And they can pay off developers and publishers to sacrifice sales until their money runs out, but it won’t engender loyalty. Honestly, it’ll just mean they’re thought of as an annoyance as big as anything released on the godforsaken Windows Store.
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Annoying people, hogging games to yourself to try to force your store onto players, making PC gaming more inconvenient rather than less: none of this is going to help Epic, nor make the Epic Store competitive with Steam. Being better than Steam would. And it would be far better for them to spend the presumably astonishing amounts of money they’re using to secure exclusives on creating a Steam-beating piece of software.
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Absolutely spot on!

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