Epic Games Store now open!

AHarvey said:
Using your analogy, which is quite frankly stupid. Epic is currently more of a KIA to Steams VW/BMW/MERC, it's lacking some of the build quality and refinements but the basics are there and it is getting better with each release.

I don't believe anyone's said it's actually competing with Steam 2004, I know I certainly didn't. What people are saying is that it takes time, lessons learnt and adaptability to get to the level that Steam currently is. Steam wasn't steam 2019 in 2004 either so to suggest Epic should come straight in at the top is mind-boggling and shows a complete lack of understanding about product development.
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Whats the issue with waiting until it is in a better state before releasing it?

Did the ps4 and xbox1 release feature incomplete just because they later to market?

At the very least these features should exist.

screenshots
achievements
cloud saves
user reviews
automatic refunds
forums
 
chrcoluk said:
Whats the issue with waiting until it is in a better state before releasing it?

Did the ps4 and xbox1 release feature incomplete just because they later to market?

At the very least these features should exist.

screenshots
achievements
cloud saves
user reviews
automatic refunds
forums
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I agree, Epic have said that user reviews will be opt-in by the developers which raises a big red flag for me. It seems this store is about pleasing the publishers/developers not the customers.
 
Indeed, the great competition that doesnt allow customers to post public reviews, no automatic refunds, can only buy the game from one place (with steam there is the bundles of alternate key buying sites), discounts that only apply to america, and less built in features.

I guess its easier to only take a smaller cut when you providing less of a service. Steam have been made out by epic to be super greedy when they actually take the industry standard cut the same as sony, nintendo and microsoft.

Also I just found out its an online mode only launcher, it just gets worse.

Are they trying the 'sky' model, entice the publishers with exclusivity payments, then when they the only player in town hike, hike and hike.
 
I think EPIC knows that Fortnite will eventually die off, i also think if Steam just undercuts them until that point that EPIC will be permanently out of the game, but until Fortnite stops being a gravy train, Steam can't really compete without destroying itself, depends entirely on how much cash they have to survive.

Anyway, one of the main guys behind EPIC right now ran many companies into the ground, i really don't get how he's still a good hire.
 
Steam's 30% cut is entirely arbitrary anyway... they set it because they pretty much invented the mainstream digital distribution model they're using, and as long as they have the superior platform (which they do) there's no need for them to change it... And as noted above if they wanted to they could match or beat Epic's revenue split instantly without breaking a sweat, but that would just make them look like they consider the Epic store a threat (hint: they don't, because it isn't)
 
It's a non-starter for me.

I have Origin, because something forced me to install it (Battlefield 1 or 2142 maybe) but I'll never open it outside of playing that game. I don't have any payment options set up and never will.

I have a uPlay account. I just checked and have never made a transaction of any kind so presumably something forced me to install it back in 2012. Again, I will never purchase a game on it.

I do have battle.net and have since 1998 and Starcraft, I occasionally made in-game purchases but full games are bought elsewhere for cheaper.

I have a billion games on steam which I've been using since Half-Life/Blue Shift/CS.

The trouble is there's no incentive to set up another service. It would just be another thing to have to manage. It's like having a bookshelf with infinite space on it that I've been using since 2001, then buying another bookshelf with infinite space on it but it's of slightly dubious quality. Why bother?
 
StriderX said:
I think EPIC knows that Fortnite will eventually die off,
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I've only ever seen vids of that game and find it utterly baffling to watch. Essentially pubg with an incredibly random building mechanic shoehorned into it?

Just looks like random spammage of building things intertwined with gunshots. :confused:
 
I also never open any launcher outside of playing a game on it, not sure why I would.

I open Origin when I fancy a blast on Battlefront or Battlefield, I dont really buy games from it.

I open Uplay when I fancy playing one of the games on it, I have bought Assassins Creed Origins, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Ghost Wildlands, The Division 1 and The Division 2 on it, purely because the 20% off a new title with the uplay points is too good to turn down.

I dont have Battlenet because Blizzard is the devil and I have no interest in any of their crap.

I have 253 games on Steam, I only open steam when I want to play one, once finished I close steam back down and probably 75% of my steam titles have been bought elsewhere and the cdkey just popped into Steam.
 
AHarvey said:
Using your analogy, which is quite frankly stupid. Epic is currently more of a KIA to Steams VW/BMW/MERC, it's lacking some of the build quality and refinements but the basics are there and it is getting better with each release.

I don't believe anyone's said it's actually competing with Steam 2004, I know I certainly didn't. What people are saying is that it takes time, lessons learnt and adaptability to get to the level that Steam currently is. Steam wasn't steam 2019 in 2004 either so to suggest Epic should come straight in at the top is mind-boggling and shows a complete lack of understanding about product development.
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Let's stop pretending Epic is some tiny upstart that couldn't come out of the gate feature packed if they bothered, shall we? Not to mention that launcher if theirs has existed for about half a decade now.
 
Someone has now reported when he got banned from a game, his entire fortnite launcher account got disabled so game library inaccessible. I think the game itself was fortnite.

I am glad I am not alone with my anti competitive exclusivity opinion this sweeney guy is getting attacked about it on twitter as well, he originally stated publishers "and" customers should have the right to choose a store, oopsie, someone obviously replied how does the consumer choose a store when the game is locked down to an exclusivity agreement.
 
chrcoluk said:
Someone has now reported when he got banned from a game, his entire fortnite launcher account got disabled so game library inaccessible. I think the game itself was fortnite.

I am glad I am not alone with my anti competitive exclusivity opinion this sweeney guy is getting attacked about it on twitter as well, he originally stated publishers "and" customers should have the right to choose a store, oopsie, someone obviously replied how does the consumer choose a store when the game is locked down to an exclusivity agreement.
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From that Reddit link I posted above.

Yeah, got banned from Fortnite for playing with a VPN client turned on (not connected just turned on) now my account is "inactive" when i try to log in.. Lost an account with like 100€ in Fortnite skins but atleast they taught me a lesson to never use their ****** launcher again.

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Gimpymoo said:
But they lost their whole Epic game library?

Or did I misread?
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Think so, my comment wasnt really aimed at that poster, it was more a musing how almost 100% of the people that I've seen banned in various games proclaimed their innocence. Seems only the innocent get banned apparently :)
 
Paul_cz said:
Let's stop pretending Epic is some tiny upstart that couldn't come out of the gate feature packed if they bothered, shall we? Not to mention that launcher if theirs has existed for about half a decade now.
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Have you ever been involved in product development? doesn't sound like it.

Yes, they've had a product out for several years but it's only recently they've decided to really push it.

Yes, they could have thrown hundreds of thousands at it and launched it complete. Would it have been ready to compete with Steam at the time they wanted it to? No. Would it have guaranteed a return on investment? maybe but it's a big gamble.

By doing it the way they are they have proven it's a viable product already and worthy of further investment. It's getting a lot of attention, fans and critics are saying what is missing and they are actively working on it.

I do find this butthurt from the steam fans towards Epic rather funny :D The only valid point against it is the exclusive direction they've gone.
 
ltron said:
I agree, Epic have said that user reviews will be opt-in by the developers which raises a big red flag for me. It seems this store is about pleasing the publishers/developers not the customers.
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Surprise that shop tries to encourage people to buy things.

There's always Metacritic or a host of other places.
 
StriderX said:
I think EPIC knows that Fortnite will eventually die off, i also think if Steam just undercuts them until that point that EPIC will be permanently out of the game, but until Fortnite stops being a gravy train, Steam can't really compete without destroying itself, depends entirely on how much cash they have to survive.

Anyway, one of the main guys behind EPIC right now ran many companies into the ground, i really don't get how he's still a good hire.
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Steam has some of the ultimate gravy trains. DOTA, etc. Plus billions banked.

Steam can't compete without destroying itself? Wut?
 
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