also there is the fact that the last borderlands game was also a bit "meh" so much so i dont even think about it when thinking borderlands.
That's a shame, I'm playing it currently and I think The Pre-Sequel is now slightly better than Borderlands 2 for at least three reasons -
i) air boosting/slamming
ii) no arsing about with s-lag
iii) cryo effects
But as for Borderlands 3, I'm happy to wait to see how it performs on PS4 Pro. I need that split-screen co-op which I don't think the PC version will have.