Poll: Eu referendum prediction thread (poll please)

Which way will you vote and who do you think will win?

  • I am voting leave and i think leave will win

    Votes: 163 28.9%

  • I am voting leave but i think remain will win

    Votes: 166 29.4%

  • I am voting remain and i think remain will win

    Votes: 133 23.6%

  • I am voting remain but i think leave will win.

    Votes: 102 18.1%
  • Total voters
    564
Voting remain but genuinely worried Leave might sneak it.

I did consider voting leave on the basis that the economic and political chaos that would result might give Labour a better chance of being elected and getting Prime Minister Corbyn. Ironically if we had left the EU then it would be easier for Corbyn to push a much more left wing agenda and re-nationalise a lot of industries, promote better laws, restrictions of companies and banks etc.

But ultimately I decided that the kind of suffering it would inflict on the poorest and most vulnerable wasn't worth it.
 
bayo000 said:
And together with these nations UK has created what the EU is today. Yes the vote back then was for something else but UK played it's part in creating the EU we know today. EU isn't this alien thing forced onto UK that you and leave are trying to portrait.
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Watch the below and I'm sure you won't feel the same way. A good example is the EU constitution, thoroughly rejected by the people in referendums, so then pushed through by the EU in a different guise, the Lisbon treaty. Merkel admits they're basically the same document. We in the UK were supposed to get a referendum on it as it meant another big power grab from the EU, but of course we didn't when they changed it to the Lisbon treaty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07c6n58
 
jas72 said:
It's not the fear of change it's economic reality.

Exactly the same for the Scottish referendum, people wanted independence but when it came down to it the reality of many years in economic turmoil made people choose the right option.


It's a no brainer that if you don't want an economic recession you vote remain.

BTW you forgot option 5 & 6

Cannot vote as immorally disenfranchised as not in the UK for 15 years. :mad: despite it directly affecting my job and rights to stay in my host country. :mad:
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Making a desicion affecting decades based on just the next few years isn't sensible.


Otherwise no one would ever choose to study.
 
BaronVonDuncs said:
Voting remain but genuinely worried Leave might sneak it.

I did consider voting leave on the basis that the economic and political chaos that would result might give Labour a better chance of being elected and getting Prime Minister Corbyn. Ironically if we had left the EU then it would be easier for Corbyn to push a much more left wing agenda and re-nationalise a lot of industries, promote better laws, restrictions of companies and banks etc.

But ultimately I decided that the kind of suffering it would inflict on the poorest and most vulnerable wasn't worth it.
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But corbyn wants to stay in
 
d_brennen said:
After we leave the EU, what do leave supporters think Britain will be like? Genuine question.
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Pretty much the same, slightly more agile when it comes to trade and diplomatic negotiations though as it doesnt have 26 other countries it has to agree with.
 
Caged said:
The vote is literally between the status quo, and leave. You might believe that staying in is a path to further integration, but that's not what this vote is about.
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Well not at all.

Would you say the EU is where it was 20 years ago?


Why do you think it eill be the sma rin the next 20?
 
Mulder said:
Watch the below and I'm sure you won't feel the same way. A good example is the EU constitution, thoroughly rejected by the people in referendums, so then pushed through by the EU in a different guise, the Lisbon treaty. Merkel admits they're basically the same document. We in the UK were supposed to get a referendum on it as it meant another big power grab from the EU, but of course we didn't when they changed it to the Lisbon treaty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07c6n58
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Which each nation signed up to including UK.
 
bayo000 said:
Which each nation signed up to including UK.
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Did you watch the BBC Paxman documentary? It's well worth a watch.

There's a difference between (for example) the Single European Act being rushed through parliament late at night, and the PM then admitting "she didn't read it" and later turning Eurosceptic. That's hardly the people of the UK signing up wholeheartedly to the path the EU is on - further, faster and deeper integration.
 
Mulder said:
Did you watch the BBC Paxman documentary? It's well worth a watch.

There's a difference between (for example) the Single European Act being rushed through parliament late at night, and the PM then admitting "she didn't read it" and later turning Eurosceptic. That's hardly the people of the UK signing up wholeheartedly to the path the EU is on - further, faster and deeper integration.
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On the phone so haven't watched it yet. It won't change my mind however. UK has played it's part in creating EU of today so I don't agree with comparing what it was that people voted on back in 70s and what it has become since.
 
Tefal said:
Well not at all.

Would you say the EU is where it was 20 years ago?


Why do you think it eill be the sma rin the next 20?
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I don't think it changes what the vote is for. People can attach their own meaning to it if they want, maybe if we engaged more with the EU then we could shape future policy a bit better. But the two options on the ballot are between remain and leave, they aren't "EU superstate" vs. "glorious independent Britain" and trying to claim otherwise by reading too much into draft proposal documents is unhelpful.

If you don't trust our government to keep us out of a federal Europe then why have the sovereignty argument at all?
 
Third Opinion said:
Yes same campaign that Norway run and still got the No to Joining the EU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-UbT0g9A8c

Norway seems to have done quite well outside the club although the EU supporters said they would be finished outside.
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Yes because it joined the EEA and has the exact same issues that the majority of the leave voters are using to leave.


  • freedom of movement
  • EU/EEA membership fees
 
Voting leave, but honestly I think remain will win when the on the day a lot of people who are now claiming they'll vote leave bottle it and vote remain.
 
Tefal said:
Making a desicion affecting decades based on just the next few years isn't sensible.


Otherwise no one would ever choose to study.
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If you'd used that argument here with regards to Scottish independence you'd have been ridiculed.

The UK has the veto and doesn't need to down the deeper integration path.

Also who said this is a once in a lifetime decision?

If in 20 years several European countries gave up their parliaments (never going to happen btw.) there would be nothing to stop the UK voting again.
 
I am voting leave but i think remain will win

- It will be fixed, the Tories will commit fraud and nobody will batter an eye lid
 
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