European Grand Prix 2010, Valencia Street Circuit - Race 9/19

NathanE said:
I'm not saying that Heikki was totally not at fault. He wasn't. .
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I can't see how anyone can blame Heki, it wasn't his fault at all. It was just a racing incident. However webber is well aware of the speed difference and braking difference and so should have been more cautious.
But it is 100% no ones fault, just one of those things.
 
Heki didn't weave, Mark clubbed him.

DC is coming from the driver safety aspect but FFS if you can have speed differences in the cars how the blinking flip are the cars supposed to pass each other?
 
Flibster said:
In which case Webber should have been more sensible about trying to overtake there.

Still no one but Webbers fault.
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It wouldn't surprise me that Webber didn't think the pass was for position. If he's spent the last 8 races having a green car jump out the way every time he comes up behind it its probably a bit unexpected if the green car holds its line.

He expected the Lotus to move. The Lotus was not obliged to.
 
Fernando Alonso was heavily critical of the race stewards of the European Grand Prix, saying the race had been manipulated
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Of course it has been manipulated, 9 drivers are going to get penalties so that Ferrari can score more points.

And all this Class A and Class B BS needs to stop now, every single car on the track has every right to defend there position, anyone who says otherwise is a deluded prat.
 
NightSt@lk3r said:
And all this Class A and Class B BS needs to stop now, every single car on the track has every right to defend there position, anyone who says otherwise is a deluded prat.
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Yup. And also the blue flags should be thrown away.

Woah Webber! 80m before your breaking point? Balls. You brake at the 20m point for that corner?
 
RedBull
So, the best car won, which is pretty much what I expected.

RedBull will be happy that the right driver won this race. ;P

My belief is that RedBull are 100% correct in backing a single driver. They need to avoid the situation that McLaren found themselves in 2007, ie. Kimi finishing 1 point ahead of Alonso and Hamilton.

Those who believe it wrong for a team to issue team orders have to understand that a team has to think about its sponsors (their pay masters). And sponsors will pay more to be associated with winners than with those who finish 2nd.

Signifcant Updates/Changes
A lot of people seem to believe that big updates, pay immedate dividends. Take note that the 2 teams who brought their "big updates" - Mercedes and Ferrari - finshed way down the field. However, expect to see Ferrari significantly faster at Silverstone as they learn how to get the best out of their "new" car.

The above does not bode well for McLaren, as RedBull are not bringing significant changes to Silverstone, meaning their car will be predictable and should stay ahead of McLaren. Obviously, McLaren must bring in the update, for long term benefits, so it is a necessary evil.

Alonso
Alonso was caught napping and was overtaken by Kobayashi - I am dissapointed in him. A similar thing happened in the last race, when Button got passed him.I rate him as joint best in F1, yet he continues to make these little errors this season. At this rate, it will be difficult to hold him in same level as Hamilton, who continues to improve.

Hamilton & Button
Hamilton continues to show why he is unquestionably the fastest driver in F1. His problem is that he leaves his strategic mind at home, as all he cares about is going as fast as he can, at any point in time. 100% of mind is focussed on going fast, with all strategic decisions delegated to his team. This where Button excels, who isn't as fast Hamilton, however, he simply doesnt make errors (racing or strategic). It appears that Button has spare capacity in his brain, to think about strategic decisions and apply the rules. Today was a great example - Hamilton wasn't sure whether or not if he was allowed to race past the safety car. In the end, he hesitated, slows down, the safety car overtook him, then Hamilton overtook the safety car. Unfortunately, because there was so little time, Hamilton didn't have time to ask his team if he was permitted to overtake the safety car, so made the (wrong) split second decision himself. Had it been Button, I'm sure he would've remembered the rules and known exactly what to do.

Hamilton and Button remind me a lot of Senna and Prost.
Senna - horrendously fast and wants to do everything he can to be fastest at all times (just like Senna).
Prost - never used to think in the moment, but more for long term; the aim - to accumulate the biggest points total during the course of the entire season (just like Button).

WDC
Hamilton is gradually opening up a lead at the top. Vettel has jumped up the standings, however, Alonso (who I believe will finish top 2 this season), has moved down. This bodes well for his rivals, who will have 1 less competitor to worry about.

Silverstone
So, Ferrari brought their update and they finished down the field. I expected this, as the team need a race or 2 to learn the characteristics of the (newly updated) car. Expect Ferrari to be significantly more competitive at Silverstone. They won't touch the RedBull cars, who will once again be fastest in Silverstone, however, Ferrari could be on par with McLaren.

McLaren will be making significant changes to their cars in Silverstone, which could mean that McLaren's move forward will be halted at Silverstone (considering that big updates usually mean that in the first race with the big update, car performance is compromised). In the long term though, a big update for McLaren, will definitely be good for them.
 
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