** European League Thread (Spain/Germany/France etc) **

Ryan Gauld (dubbed the mini messi) made his league debut at the weekend, wins a pen, nutmegs a boy so he's handed his first start tonight, scores two goals and Sporting Lisbon lose 3 - 2! :mad:
 
Ronaldo once again invisible in a game, unless he's getting service to score his usual tap ins u wouldn't even notice he was on the pitch unless he assaults people like he did today.
 
lucarocks92 said:
For any of u that like stats here is a good post about how Messi compares to his competitors in all kinds of different stats and not just goals.

He truly is on a completely different level to any other player i have seen.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/
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Im not convinced by some of those stats ( for instance some of those percentages have to add up to 100% to be meaningful, and they aren't even close)

Im not doubting how good messi is - just how bad the analysis is
 
Mexes is a joke of a defender and he's one of the highest paid players at AC, how he's still there(or frankly was ever in a top division team) I don't know. Not so secretly wanted AC to do horribly this year. From Berlusconi being president(and owner/part owner?) to ditching a legend like Seedorf after he masterminded an epic turn around last year then bringing in a striker I always absolutely hated to replace him. I could understand if you had the chance to bring in an Ancelotti or something ahead of a guy with 6 months experience, but an even less experienced manager is daft as hell.

LAst season the manager who got fired got 22 points in the first half of the season, Seedorf took over with no preseason to change the team, very little time and got 35 points, over the whole season that points scoring rate would have gotten them into 4th/europa league spot.

Inzaghi with the preseason, more buys and coming off a good second half to the season managed 26 points in 19 games(and is still there after 20). Over the season that point scoring rate would have gotten them 11th last year. He's been crap and they fully deserve it after ditching Seedorf.
 
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Another good goal from Pogba :cool:
 
drunkenmaster said:
Mexes is a joke of a defender and he's one of the highest paid players at AC, how he's still there(or frankly was ever in a top division team) I don't know. Not so secretly wanted AC to do horribly this year. From Berlusconi being president(and owner/part owner?) to ditching a legend like Seedorf after he masterminded an epic turn around last year then bringing in a striker I always absolutely hated to replace him. I could understand if you had the chance to bring in an Ancelotti or something ahead of a guy with 6 months experience, but an even less experienced manager is daft as hell.

LAst season the manager who got fired got 22 points in the first half of the season, Seedorf took over with no preseason to change the team, very little time and got 35 points, over the whole season that points scoring rate would have gotten them into 4th/europa league spot.

Inzaghi with the preseason, more buys and coming off a good second half to the season managed 26 points in 19 games(and is still there after 20). Over the season that point scoring rate would have gotten them 11th last year. He's been crap and they fully deserve it after ditching Seedorf.
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It's just a big circus at Ac Milan, I think Seeford was let go because some players in the dressing room were not really playing for him and there was some turmoil there.

Same thing has happened with Inzaghi now, there are reports of certain players not being on talking terms with him and the results haven't exactly been good.

Seedorf could be a very good manager i think, he had improved Ac Milan when he took over and they were playing good football while getting results.
 
There is two types of unrest in a dressing room though, overpaid over privileged asshats who under stupid managers have been started even though not deserving to, and those who are genuinely good but not getting starts due to an incompetent manager.

Sherwood seemed to anger several players in the squad like Sandro, but quite right, he was starting previously despite being pretty awful and then dropped under a new manager and the team improved drastically. I can understand for Sandro who was starting and clearly considered himself great to be dropped for the kid Bentaleb would be upsetting, but so what. YOu can't make every player happy. Conversely if a manager comes in and does crap, has players who start performing poorly then other players on the bench maybe are rightly peeved for not being given a chance.

Seedorf came in, improved the team drastically with an over 50% improvement in points per game, whoever got dropped or had to work harder in training, they may have been unhappy but it seems to clearly have been the right decision.

Effectively if the manager is doing a great job and a few players are upset... you get rid of those players, if the manager sucks and several players are unhappy.... get rid of the manager.

With Sherwood I think he did almost as well as Seedorf, improved points though marginally but drastically improved the team and their offence. I can understand bringing in someone with more experience and a better longer term track record to build a team into a more complete team though I also think Sherwood deserved the chance this year as well. But Seedorf did so well and got replaced by a completely unproven ****, it was ridiculous.

Maybe I'm entirely wrong here but I get a racist vibe from the situation. Like Berlusconi will use black players if he has to, will even give Seedorf a chance at a caretaker manager(probably because no one else that suitable was interested or available) but actually being successful under him rather than giving Inzaghi a chance maybe was too much and he had to go. I just get that racist vibe from Berlusconi/his kid/italy in general to some degree.
 
Ha, Milan lost to Lazio in the cup as well now, Lazio were a man down for a fair portion of the game, not paying a huge amount of attention to it, might have been a first half red card. Milan still can't win.
 
Torres makes it 1-0 in the second leg of the Atletico vs Barca cup game. Barca took a 1-0 lead from the first leg so level on aggregate. I believe away goals count so Atletico are at a bit of a disadvantage.
 
Alba's not a diver :rolleyes: , linesman literally just lowers his arm and taps him on the head, Alba clearly thinks the Atletico player may have touched him on the head and he goes down rolling around holding his head, what a complete ****.

Still can't quite tell from the replays, did Suarez handle the ball before playing it in behind for Neymar? decent finish but poor positioning by the keeper, way to far out from goal, lost where he was, messed up his angles and terrible defending in general.

EDIT:- main issue now really is that Atletico need to score two, a draw will go to Barca now. Shame really Atletico did hold Barca off for so long in the first leg but weren't aggressive enough, playing for the draw too much left them in this position. Possible but maybe not probable I would think.
 
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