EV general discussion

Jonnycoupe · 9 Feb 2020 at 00:16

Ah bless, he’s getting the Lotus derived one mixed up with the Mk2 Roadster.

jamoor · 9 Feb 2020 at 05:31

Nasher said:
Yep, there are no good options unless you're paying 60k+ yet

I'm running an old Lotus Elise to work and back atm (15 minute commute). It's not losing any value, does around 40mpg, insurance is cheap, looks sexy and can wake the neighbourhood, and it's London ULEZ exempt lols. I'd lose far more buying a EV now than continuing to pay for petrol and road tax.

A lotus Elise isn’t exactly a serious proposition for a daily driver for 90% of people.

Nasher · 9 Feb 2020 at 09:31

jamoor said:
A lotus Elise isn’t exactly a serious proposition for a daily driver for 90% of people.

If you are overweight or like big ugly SUVs and gimmicks then obviously no. But small, light and no depreciation beats EV running costs.

jamoor · 9 Feb 2020 at 11:39

Nasher said:
If you are overweight or like big ugly SUVs and gimmicks then obviously no. But small, light and no depreciation beats EV running costs.

Or you need to carry a couple of bags or a couple of passengers. Or shopping plus a passenger.

Nasher · 9 Feb 2020 at 11:44

jamoor said:
Or you need to carry a couple of bags or a couple of passengers. Or shopping plus a passenger.

Shopping isn't an issue, the boot is easily big enough. If passengers (rarely for a commute) then use the shed instead.

jamoor · 9 Feb 2020 at 12:42

Nasher said:
Shopping isn't an issue, the boot is easily big enough. If passengers (rarely for a commute) then use the shed instead.

Well now you have two cars which isn’t exactly convenient for most people. Not to mention 2x all fixed running cost

jpaul · 9 Feb 2020 at 12:45

elise maintenance !, even if depreciation is low The REAL 2010 cost of owning a Lotus Elise 50p/m, not dissimilar to an ev,
plus for a family it's the combined cost with other bigger cars that might have more miles put on them.

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Conanius said:
My Hyundai Ioniq EV comes on Wednesday. Its the Premium SE model.

looks like these have heated rear seats, which if it like kona, means a heat pump for cabin heating ? ... intrigued by their tech
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[TW]Fox · 9 Feb 2020 at 12:45

Nasher said:
Shopping isn't an issue, the boot is easily big enough. If passengers (rarely for a commute) then use the shed instead.

Great if you're happy to have a shed. Many people are not.

Conscript · 9 Feb 2020 at 12:52

Theres no point guys. He has a Lotus Elise, a brilliant, but enormously comprimised impractical car, but because he's OK with it on his 15 minute commute, he's how convinced that it's a better proposition as a daily driver than the raft of more suitable EVs, for everyone. You're wasting your breath trying to convince him otherwise.

Journey · 9 Feb 2020 at 13:00

Conscript said:
You're wasting your breath trying to convince him otherwise.

It's the age old saying; "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Jonnycoupe · 9 Feb 2020 at 13:05

Nasher said:
If you are overweight or like big ugly SUVs and gimmicks then obviously no. But small, light and no depreciation beats EV running costs.

The problem with a car like the Elise is that you arrive at your destination tired, irritable and go on to attack the internet..

Nasher · 9 Feb 2020 at 13:09

Jonnycoupe said:
The problem with a car like the Elise is that you arrive at your destination tired, irritable and go on to attack the internet..

Naa. It's surprisingly comfortable. No less than my gt86 was really and it handles the UK's rough roads better.

mjt · 9 Feb 2020 at 13:28

Nasher said:
Naa. It's surprisingly comfortable. No less than my gt86 was really and it handles the UK's rough roads better.

Oh give over. Unless your GT86 was a stripped-out track tool, you’re completely delusional.

Fusion · 9 Feb 2020 at 13:56

General forum advice: the Ignore function can be fantastic.

Conanius · 9 Feb 2020 at 14:15

jpaul said:
looks like these have heated rear seats, which if it like kona, means a heat pump for cabin heating ? ... intrigued by their tech

I believe you are right, yes.

Nasher · 9 Feb 2020 at 14:16

mjt said:
Oh give over. Unless your GT86 was a stripped-out track tool, you’re completely delusional.

I guess you have no experience of either then...

Dianbobo · 9 Feb 2020 at 14:56

Just picked up a Peugeot e208 this week. I was surprised after installing zap map just how many free 7kw chargers there are. I think this might be the best time to go electric with zero tax then grants for the vehicle and home chargers.

mjt · 9 Feb 2020 at 18:35

Nasher said:
I guess you have no experience of either then...

I have driven an Elise. I have also driven an GT86 from Denmark to Belgium and back in 24 hours.

One was a significantly nicer place to be. I’ll leave that up to you to guess.

I’ll give you a hint- the suspension was horribly bouncy and it had a clock from the 1980s.

Alibaba99 · 9 Feb 2020 at 18:35

mjt said:
Oh give over. Unless your GT86 was a stripped-out track tool, you’re completely delusional.

How many years experience do you have with owning and driving an Elise? Just don't base your idea of what level of comfort can be achieved in a lightweight sports car by what Audi or BMW do with a their sports suspension set ups.

Dis86 · 9 Feb 2020 at 18:39

Alibaba99 said:
How many years experience do you have with owning and driving an Elise? Just don't base your idea of what level of comfort can be achieved in a lightweight sports car by what Audi or BMW do with a their sports suspension set ups.

Have to agree. The suspension in my Boxster is miles better than that in the 640d I had before it. I don't think BMW understand how to do damping properly.